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				<title>500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> is starting a slow grow league for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span>, and I am making a themed Bretonnian force (No peasants!  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ). This is my first list for 500 points, I would love some C&C! <br /> <br /> Hero: <br /> Paladin, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> - 74<br /> <br /> Core:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KoTR</span> (8) - 192<br /> <br /> Knights Errant (9) - Standard Bearer, Errantry Banner - 214<br /> <br /> Total: 480<br /> <br /> Not sure where to put the last 20 points. Also I'm not sure if it's better to go with these two big Knight buses, or try and do smaller buses of 6?<br /> <br /> Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:52:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ lizardwolf19]]></author>
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				<title>500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well i tried this at a recent escalation league and i have to say two things, neither are good.<br /> 1. As bretonnians have to have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> and armies have to have a general the only legal Lords and Heroes you can take are a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> paladin and a lord with "foot" duty (sorry army book is not in front of me), This means you have a 120 pt lord doing not a lot and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span>, oh and half your points have just dissappeared.<br /> 2. As you have to take a unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KOTR</span> it really doesnt leave you a lot of points for anything else, i advise some Archers and when the league increases in size a bit (i assume this is what is happening in your slow grow league), put your lord on a horse and get some more knights!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:19:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ brentyboi]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As has been mentioned, your only legal general choice is a Lord on foot with Virtue of Empathy and a shield, 123 points.<br /> <br /> The reason for this is that you MUST take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> - which will take a minimum of 72 of your 125 point hero allocation... and not leaving enough for a second hero. You'll want to keep him cheap because you need the points for other stuff; a 2+ armor and Blessing saves should do okay for him at 500 points<br /> <br /> The 'must take a unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KotR</span>' is debatable. However, taking them is a pretty good idea; they do hit pretty hard at this point level. 5 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> to escort your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> is a good idea.<br /> <br /> Then a unit of either archers or Men@Arms to bunker your general in, and a treb to provide heavy fire support rounds out your list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:39:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only way you will really make a decent 500pt Bretonnian army is if you kindly ask your opponent if you don't have to take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, because in a list with no peasants, he will be walking around in his own not doing very much. Otherwise take a block of M@A for his to sit with and command.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:40:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That's somewhat disheartening. I may ask the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> if we can house rule some of those requirements for Bret. away at low points levels. It's a friendly slow  grow league at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(211);'>LGS</span>, so hopefully they'll be ok with it. Seems like the army is pretty well hamstrung with the current restrictions, though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:30:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ lizardwolf19]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I had a similar situation when starting Brets, in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and LGC we ommitted the rule for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> until we reached the 750 pts levle as then you can field a 'legal' army]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:36:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Carpe_Jugular]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not to be a broken record, but yeah, brets at &lt;750 is pretty rough.  My recomendation is to take the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> Paladin vanilla (maybe a 5 pt enchanted shield) and a smaller block of knights (6 to 8) and a 20 man block of M@A as your mini-tarpit.  And just try and make sure the two units are never more than  6in appart.  It's not great,  but at that point level, it may be your best option.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:41:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sneezembop]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How about some Peasant Bowmen? they tend to do good at low p cost.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:00:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ phatonic]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c6dd60a67f164c8a38cf909467b7415a.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509285/5316386.page"><b>Vulcan wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> The 'must take a unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KotR</span>' is debatable. However, taking them is a pretty good idea; they do hit pretty hard at this point level. 5 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> to escort your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> is a good idea.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> How is this debatable?<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> in the army book you have to take one unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KOTR</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:22:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ brentyboi]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/324c5d4f4b1fac7e9dc1b50963429911.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509285/5336184.page"><b>brentyboi wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c6dd60a67f164c8a38cf909467b7415a.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/509285/5316386.page"><b>Vulcan wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> The 'must take a unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KotR</span>' is debatable. However, taking them is a pretty good idea; they do hit pretty hard at this point level. 5 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> to escort your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> is a good idea.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> How is this debatable?<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> in the army book you have to take one unit of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KOTR</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> In the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> removed the 1+ unit restriction from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(507);'>KoTR</span> entry but did not remove the comment in the margin which reads "Note that every Bretonnian army must include at least one unit of Knights of the Realm" so it is debatable whether tehir inclusion is mandatory or not, not that it really matters as most people tend to have at least one units of Knights unless going for a complete peasant force]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:43:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Carpe_Jugular]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Darn, must of missed that, thank you.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Mar 2013 20:09:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ brentyboi]]></author>
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				<title>500 point Bretonnia</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ lord on foot shield 123<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> 74<br /> <br /> 5 knights  standard 112<br /> <br /> 20 men@arms 100<br /> <br /> trebuchet 90<br /> <br /> 499 on the dot<br /> <br /> block of men and lord sit back by trebuchet knights go try to kill things that get hit by trebuchet <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:54:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lone Crusader]]></author>
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