HawaiiMatt wrote:
Trappers thin down hordes.
50 points to make 30 guys take dangerous tests? That's pretty good. 6 kills (average) is 90 points of enemies taken out for 50 points. Do that a few times and try and get a flank charge.

-Matt

 magless wrote:
All great advice. I have some questions still:

I had an Ironblaster, but it doesn't seem to be very effective against groups of enemies. Single target beasties, sure, but big blocks of infantry it doesn't seem to do too much. Am I doing something wrong with it? Should I try a Scraplauncher next time I face these guys?

I'm still new, so trying to get those kitties in position has been a bit tricky for me, but I think I'm getting there.

I did have a Lvl4 and tried a mix of buff/offensive spells to a somewhat ok effect. Near the beginning of the game, he had a line of archers in front of his Swordmasters, and I cast Braingobbler on them to make them roll for Panic test. It would have been awesome if not for the BSB re-roll. So, I had a good idea, it just didn't happen.

I plan on getting a Firebelly and a Stonehorn/Thundertusk soon. So maybe we'll see what we can do those.

Aside from the 6 leadbelchers I'm running I just don't seem to have a whole lot of range to strip them with.

And smashing my Mournfang into them would be satisfying, I don't see how the d3 impact hits can make that much of a difference. After that, they just get shredded.

Again, thanks for the advice guys.

 Grey Templar wrote:


Cannons are for killing large single targets generally, not units of normal dudes. Don't get the Scraplauncher, the Ironblaster fills a hole. The Scraplauncher does what normal ogres do, just worse.

Generally, braingobbler will never be cast. its almost never useful. Bonecruncher can be useful but thats it for the Gutmagic offensive spells. Avoid the Maw too, its bad if it misfires.

Generally, Gutmagic is about casting Trollguts, Bullgorger, Toothcracker, and Spinemarrow. Focus your energy at those spells. Maybe cast Bonecruncher against a unit of Knights or Braingobbler a unit to draw some dispel dice out but nothing more. Bonecruncher is effective against units with good armor saves, like any of the HE heavy cavalry. It can cause a couple wounds here and there.


Mournfangs are effective, but don't hit their Swordmasters or White Lions with them except in the flank. They will chew up Spearmen and guys in the flank like nobodies business. If you give them HA, Ironfists, and the Dragonhide banner. Rerolling 1s for 2+ armor saves make str 3 attacks useless. It takes something like 450+ str3 attacks(even with SoA rerolls to hit) to kill a single Mournfang with the DHB.

A unit of 4 mournfang can do the following.

4d3 impact hits. Averaging to 8 hits that will wound on 2s(rerolling 1s from DHB) with no piddly little elf armor saves.

Then each Mournfang has 3 Str4 attacks, rerolling 1s to hit and wound. And 4 str5 attacks rerolling 1s to hit and wound. Thats a total of 12 str 4 and 18 str5 attacks.

Meanwhile the mournfangs also reroll 1s to save, on 2+ armor thats pretty significant.


If there are swordmasters, hit them in the flank. It will significantly reduce the attacks made back against you. If you have Toothcracker up on the Mournfangs the Swordmasters will need 4s to wound, and you'll have a 4+ armor and 6+ parry to bounce them. Or 4+ regen if you got Trollguts up.

 magless wrote:
Hmm. I like this idea. I don't have any gnoblars at the moment, and haven't used them yet. So what would be a better choice: smaller tar pit trapper units or large blocks of them?