<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Chaos Lord Loadout"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Chaos Lord Loadout 40k after a long hiatus and I've decided to trade in my dark angels for my friend's chaos, but I'm not sure which load-out I want for my custom chaos lord, I know I want two weapons and possibly mounted on a berzerker. any suggestions? I'm probably going to go with two powerswords or a powersword and power lance.

Discuss, Debate, etc.

-Cypher's Sword]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611345.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 Cypher's Sword wrote:
Hey guys, I'm just getting back into 40k after a long hiatus and I've decided to trade in my dark angels for my friend's chaos, but I'm not sure which load-out I want for my custom chaos lord, I know I want two weapons and possibly mounted on a berzerker. any suggestions? I'm probably going to go with two powerswords or a powersword and power lance.

Discuss, Debate, etc.

-Cypher's Sword

If you want two normal weapons, two of the same kind is a waste of points, as you can only ever choose to use one at the time, and the +1 Attack you get for an extra weapon might as well come from a generic Close Combat Weapon. That said, you would benefit the most from picking weapons for different purposes. The common pick is Lightning Claw + Power Fist. The first one is AP3 and good for cutting Marine type opponents, and the second is AP2 and good vs Vehicles, but suffer from striking at Initiative 1.
When you say "Mount on a Berzerker", I assume you mean a Juggernaut? If not.. nasty If you make him a Khorne Lord, I strongly recommend the Axe of Blind Fury.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611383.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
If you are going this route, getting a unit of bikers/spawn to go with your Lord is usually a good call.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611400.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611400.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
Alright, so if you take a single power weapon and keep your basic CCW, you get to swing at AP3 and gain an additional attack for dual wielding. If you take two power you weapons, you spend 15 more points to... swing at AP3 and gain an additional attack for dual wielding.

Paying 15 points for a Power Lance on top of a Power Weapon is effectively paying 15 points for Furious Charge, which is interesting. However, Mark of Khorne gives Rage (and Counter-Attack) for 10 points, which maths out to being more effective.

Of course, you can model him with two swords and a holstered pistol even if he only actually has a PW and Bolt Pistol. Tactically, you'd be better off taking advantage of the more unique equipment, like the Murder Sword, or Black Mace, or Dual Lightning Claws.

EDIT: Man I'm a slow poke.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611410.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
Would you say the Murder Sword is worth it? I've lost a game that I was about to win because of a deamon weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611433.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611433.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout IMHO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611516.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout Nurgle lord
Blight grenades
Bike
Fist
Burning brand
Aura

With a squad of melta gun nurgle bikers

And a lvl 3 unmarked sorcerer with biomancy

I have had a lot of success with this at the 1800 plus point range]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611633.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout MoN I add Blight grenades but really the mark is for unlocking troops.


Lightning Claw + Power Fist, bike, sigil

Lighting Claw + Burning Brand, bike, sigil

Powerfist + Burning Brand, bike, sigil

AoBF on jugger, sigil

Terminator armor, power axe and brand

Terminator armor, power axe and nothing]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611663.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout Power Fist S8 AP2
Sigil of Corruption and the Mark of Tzeentch to give him a +3 invulnerable save.
Veteran of the Long War for the rerolls.
Plus a Plasma Pistol for some type of ranged attacks.
I found that when I had 2 weapons I only used the fist because it gave me a real KILLING attack. S8 is instant kill on most enemies.
The +3 Invul lets you survive most attacks so the Int 1 isn't a big problem.

I run him with a 6 man Chosen Squad with 5 Meltas. They all ride in a Rhino with a Dirge caster.
They roll up to a target pile out and shoot then charge the next turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611759.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611833.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5611833.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 Sephyr wrote:
Mounting the Lord on a Juggernaut is amazing. It makes you T5, meaning you don't need to fear Instant Death from S8-9, and the extra wound make you that much more durable.

If you are going this route, getting a unit of bikers/spawn to go with your Lord is usually a good call.


Do NOT put your Juggernaut Lord with a unit of Bikes. Bikes have Jink, which will give them cover saves everywhere they go. Your Juggerlord does not have Jink. 6th edition has a rule called "Focus Fire", where you can target the models in a unit with less cover than the rest of the unit. This Means that your bike squad will not provide protection for your Lord against dedicated shooting at all (provided your opponent knows this rule, of course).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612320.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout LoS to reallocate those wounds onto your bikes, though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612326.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout TDA. But I want to get Juggerlord as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612365.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612412.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout TDA.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612498.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612498.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
You have the choice of +1str and AP2 at I1 or AP4 at Initiative. Pluse it looks cool.

Axe of Blinding fury for Khorne.

Always on a bike unless he's a terminator or you want to put him on a juggernaut.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612688.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
mp40guy wrote:
I run my Chaos Lord with the following load out.
Power Fist S8 AP2
Sigil of Corruption and the Mark of Tzeentch to give him a +3 invulnerable save.
Veteran of the Long War for the rerolls.
Plus a Plasma Pistol for some type of ranged attacks.
I found that when I had 2 weapons I only used the fist because it gave me a real KILLING attack. S8 is instant kill on most enemies.
The +3 Invul lets you survive most attacks so the Int 1 isn't a big problem.

I run him with a 6 man Chosen Squad with 5 Meltas. They all ride in a Rhino with a Dirge caster.
They roll up to a target pile out and shoot then charge the next turn.


if you are using a powerfist why bother with the pistol? That is 15 points that arent giving you 1 attack. Take a combi plasma. You get 2 plasma shots at that range and it costs so much less. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5612964.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
GeneralCael wrote:


Do NOT put your Juggernaut Lord with a unit of Bikes. Bikes have Jink, which will give them cover saves everywhere they go. Your Juggerlord does not have Jink. 6th edition has a rule called "Focus Fire", where you can target the models in a unit with less cover than the rest of the unit. This Means that your bike squad will not provide protection for your Lord against dedicated shooting at all (provided your opponent knows this rule, of course).


This is only if they choose to Jink; it is not a compulsory save, so that really isn't an issue. The only way they could force wounds on your Jugger-Lord is with precision shots, which you can do nothing about. You can run them with Spawn as well though, but the Spawn get no save of any kind. Because of their lack of a save I usually give mine MoN, but if you are running a Jugger-Lord that isn't an option. So a unit of Spawn really would just be a meat shield and a nice plus if they make it into combat--where they shine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613125.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
POKEYtheBIG wrote:

So a unit of Beasts really would just be a meat shield and a nice plus if they make it into combat--where they shine, especially if given MoK.


beasts already have Rage, so giving them MoK nets them what, Counter attack? On a 12" move unit with fleet and ignore terrain they should be charging all the time. Save the points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613148.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613148.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
POKEYtheBIG wrote:
GeneralCael wrote:


Do NOT put your Juggernaut Lord with a unit of Bikes. Bikes have Jink, which will give them cover saves everywhere they go. Your Juggerlord does not have Jink. 6th edition has a rule called "Focus Fire", where you can target the models in a unit with less cover than the rest of the unit. This Means that your bike squad will not provide protection for your Lord against dedicated shooting at all (provided your opponent knows this rule, of course).


This is only if they choose to Jink; it is not a compulsory save, so that really isn't an issue. The only way they could force wounds on your Jugger-Lord is with precision shots, which you can do nothing about. You can run them with Beasts as well though, but the Beasts get no save of any kind. Because of their lack of a save I usually give mine MoN, but if you are running a Jugger-Lord that isn't an option. So a unit of Beasts really would just be a meat shield and a nice plus if they make it into combat--where they shine, especially if given MoK.


When you say beasts you mean spawn right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613154.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:

When you say beasts you mean spawn right?


Yes thank you for catching that. I will edit accordingly.


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 Exergy wrote:


beasts already have Rage, so giving them MoK nets them what, Counter attack? On a 12" move unit with fleet and ignore terrain they should be charging all the time. Save the points.


Sorry I was thinking it granted an additional attack.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613253.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout MoN bike PF LC and sigil in a unit of MoN spawn. It's a really good unit for the relatively low cost of the points. If you get the poison attacks on the spawn against meq you get a reroll 2+ to wound, if you manage to role 5+ on attacks the unit is rediculous.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5613516.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout MoK
Black Mase
Aura

Put him with 9 Bezerks

in Rhino
dirge caster
extra armor
dozer blade

flank with 2nd rhino and run up jump out turn 2 assult turn three
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there you go bud ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5614056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5614056.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
POKEYtheBIG wrote:
GeneralCael wrote:


Do NOT put your Juggernaut Lord with a unit of Bikes. Bikes have Jink, which will give them cover saves everywhere they go. Your Juggerlord does not have Jink. 6th edition has a rule called "Focus Fire", where you can target the models in a unit with less cover than the rest of the unit. This Means that your bike squad will not provide protection for your Lord against dedicated shooting at all (provided your opponent knows this rule, of course).


This is only if they choose to Jink; it is not a compulsory save, so that really isn't an issue. The only way they could force wounds on your Jugger-Lord is with precision shots, which you can do nothing about. You can run them with Spawn as well though, but the Spawn get no save of any kind. Because of their lack of a save I usually give mine MoN, but if you are running a Jugger-Lord that isn't an option. So a unit of Spawn really would just be a meat shield and a nice plus if they make it into combat--where they shine.


Jink (p. 38):
A model with this special rule that has moved in its Movement Phase gains a 5+ cover save until the start of its next Movement phase.

The cover save is not optional.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5614072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5614072.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
 Exergy wrote:
mp40guy wrote:
I run my Chaos Lord with the following load out.
Power Fist S8 AP2
Sigil of Corruption and the Mark of Tzeentch to give him a +3 invulnerable save.
Veteran of the Long War for the rerolls.
Plus a Plasma Pistol for some type of ranged attacks.
I found that when I had 2 weapons I only used the fist because it gave me a real KILLING attack. S8 is instant kill on most enemies.
The +3 Invul lets you survive most attacks so the Int 1 isn't a big problem.

I run him with a 6 man Chosen Squad with 5 Meltas. They all ride in a Rhino with a Dirge caster.
They roll up to a target pile out and shoot then charge the next turn.


if you are using a powerfist why bother with the pistol? That is 15 points that arent giving you 1 attack. Take a combi plasma. You get 2 plasma shots at that range and it costs so much less.


If you use the combi plasma 1 you only have 1 shot with the plasma and 2 its a rapid fire weapon you cant assault afterwards. The pistol is just another attack before the fist.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615452.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615452.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
mp40guy wrote:
 Exergy wrote:
mp40guy wrote:
I run my Chaos Lord with the following load out.
Power Fist S8 AP2
Sigil of Corruption and the Mark of Tzeentch to give him a +3 invulnerable save.
Veteran of the Long War for the rerolls.
Plus a Plasma Pistol for some type of ranged attacks.
I found that when I had 2 weapons I only used the fist because it gave me a real KILLING attack. S8 is instant kill on most enemies.
The +3 Invul lets you survive most attacks so the Int 1 isn't a big problem.

I run him with a 6 man Chosen Squad with 5 Meltas. They all ride in a Rhino with a Dirge caster.
They roll up to a target pile out and shoot then charge the next turn.


if you are using a powerfist why bother with the pistol? That is 15 points that arent giving you 1 attack. Take a combi plasma. You get 2 plasma shots at that range and it costs so much less.


If you use the combi plasma 1 you only have 1 shot with the plasma and 2 its a rapid fire weapon you cant assault afterwards. The pistol is just another attack before the fist.


The plasma pistol is not an extra attack before the fist. You only get to attack with one weapon, so the pistol is only used in shooting. Yes rapid firing is only useable if you are not going to assault. If you are going to assualt, the last thing you want to do is fire a plasma pistol that might kill an enemy that is close to your assault unit. If you kill too many then your charge will fail and you will get shot up next turn. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615601.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
GeneralCael wrote:


Jink (p. 38):
A model with this special rule that has moved in its Movement Phase gains a 5+ cover save until the start of its next Movement phase.

The cover save is not optional.


I got the Jink and Evade rules mixed--my bad]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5615979.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5627473.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5627473.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
Ithani wrote:
You had me at Lord mounted on bezerker.


Someone not cash strapped needs to model this]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5627962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5627962.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
mp40guy wrote:
I run my Chaos Lord with the following load out.
Power Fist S8 AP2
Sigil of Corruption and the Mark of Tzeentch to give him a +3 invulnerable save.
Veteran of the Long War for the rerolls.
Plus a Plasma Pistol for some type of ranged attacks.
I found that when I had 2 weapons I only used the fist because it gave me a real KILLING attack. S8 is instant kill on most enemies.
The +3 Invul lets you survive most attacks so the Int 1 isn't a big problem.

I run him with a 6 man Chosen Squad with 5 Meltas. They all ride in a Rhino with a Dirge caster.
They roll up to a target pile out and shoot then charge the next turn.


holy golden armchair batman! if you had a lord with mark of tzeentchl in termie armor, would you get +2/+4 save?? thats awesome, I always feel the pull to play just one god, but I can never choose.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5647998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5647998.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout MoK + Axe of blind fury, sigil and veterans of long war. Can't get any stronger in CC than that with 8-13 S6 Ap2 attacks on a charge.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648044.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648044.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout CSM HQs, I'd go entirely for a DP with Black Mace, Wings, MoK and Power Armour.. If we're talking Chaos Lords here, I usually go for Terminator Armour, MoK, Power Fist and Lightning Claw, with Sigil of Corruption ;D I usually run this guy in an LR with some more Termys sporting Chainfists and/or Power Fists ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648104.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 Kirasu wrote:
I pretty much always go for the most destructive lord. Jugger + MoK + Axe of blind fury, sigil and veterans of long war. Can't get any stronger in CC than that with 8-13 S6 Ap2 attacks on a charge.



This is a really choppy build, but I prefer, MoN on a bike PF LC. I prefer this because he is still plenty killy with 5 base attacks that are either S8 ap2 or S4 AP3 shred which is really decent. He is still really fast and T6 is so tough. I then love to run him with some MoN spawn for a really fast lots of wounds high toughness unit that can drown you in attacks with a bit of luck.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5648125.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout T5 and 3++ pretty much negate the chance of self injury, so he can roll around going spell crazy! In theory...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652709.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 rubicant99 wrote:
Has anyone tried the Tzeentch lord with scrolls, bike, sigil & magic familiar?
T5 and 3++ pretty much negate the chance of self injury, so he can roll around going spell crazy! In theory...


or he could be a sorceror ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652765.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652765.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 Exergy wrote:
 rubicant99 wrote:
Has anyone tried the Tzeentch lord with scrolls, bike, sigil & magic familiar?
T5 and 3++ pretty much negate the chance of self injury, so he can roll around going spell crazy! In theory...


or he could be a sorceror

Lord is fearless and has an extra wound, just in case ; )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652806.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652913.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652913.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout
 minigun762 wrote:
Why bike? Why not the steed instead?


steeds dont give +1T, so the scrolls wound on 5+ instead of 6+

halve your wounds taken from scrolls]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652930.page GMT Chaos Lord Loadout http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5652969.page GMT Re:Chaos Lord Loadout
A Khorne Lord on a Juggernaut, if that's what you're looking at, is one of the better options available, especially (read:mandatory) if he takes the Axe of Blind Fury. For not many more points than PFist, you're getting a stupid number of AP2 attacks at initiative, and with the Juggernaut's buffs, you're quite survivable too.

Listen, 7 to 13 S6 AP2 attacks at I5 from one charging model (3 base, +1 Bolt Pistol/CC, +1 Juggernaut, +2 MoK, +2-6 Daemon Weapon) will kill things dead, and T5 W4 means that he's also not dying to enemy powerfists. If you're already mounting him on a juggernaut, you have no reason not to equip him with the Axe of Blind Fury.

If you're not mounting him up, Tzeentch (if you don't want to unlock anything) with Sigil of Corruption + Terminator Armor + Power Fist&Lightning Claw gives you that 2+/3++ and a variety of combat options. Nurgle, Terminator Armor, Sigil, Fist/Claw gives you 2+/4++ and T5, so going against enemy terminators isn't a total fail. Nurgle on a Bike, with the Burning Brand gives you T6, mobility, and a good ranged weapon, very rare on HQ choices. Slaanesh on a Bike or Steed works, and the Brand is a good option here too.

A lot depends on what you want your lord doing/which unit you want your lord with, and which, if any, cult troop you want unlocked. The Juggernaut Lord is extra killy, but unlocks Berserkers, which are the second worst Cult Troop, only better than Thousand Sons. Nurgle and Slaanesh Lord loadouts really depend on what unit you want accompanying them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5653222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/526694/5653222.page GMT