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				<description><![CDATA[ hi gang,<br /> <br /> looking at the landraider, it's always struck me as rather stupid that the side hatches are mounted right in front of the sponson weapons. your assault troops either risk getting shot on the way out the door or foul line of sight for the landraider's weapons as they charge out. either way, suboptimal and something you'd think space marines would be a bit more clever about.<br /> <br /> with that in mind, if I were to assemble the raider such that the weapon sponsors were in the front-most doorways and the side hatches were in the rear-most, would I run into modeling for advantage issues? I don't think it changes the firing arc in any appreciable way, but it would move the guns forward a couple inches, so a case could be made over weapon range shenanigans. would this be a problem in a typical tournament setting?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 20:31:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 21:11:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Most folks do this, especially for the crusader and redeemer models. Plus it looks better.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 21:16:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Marcus Scipio]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Agreed.<br /> It makes more sense and looks far better.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 21:31:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you mean like this:<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/115597-Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Death%20Guard%2C%20Land%20Raider%2C%20Plague%20Marines.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/6/25/115597_sm-Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Death%20Guard%2C%20Land%20Raider%2C%20Plague%20Marines.JPG" border="0" /></a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 22:00:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ exactly like that, yes <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> though probably with a bit less nurgle...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 22:12:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:landraider assembly and modeling for advantage</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've never understood why anyone would put the exits in front of the guns to begin with, yet it appears to be very common.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/53809-Land%20Raider%2C%20Magnet%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Ultramarines%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/9/17/53809_sm-Land%20Raider%2C%20Magnet%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Ultramarines%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /> (with apologies to the guy whose image I googled)<br /> <br /> You'd have to swivel the lasguns just to open the doors!<br /> <br /> That being said, the box art for the Land Raiders I own (attached, not sure if it's still current) shows a pretty good argument that putting them forward is not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(537);'>MFA</span>. <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 May 2013 22:43:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ouze]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ed3582451ab02ff0c0462a0fe57e1eb5.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/528507/5644753.page"><b>Ouze wrote:</b></a><br/>You'd have to swivel the lasguns just to open the doors!</div></blockquote><br /> In a combat situation, they would generally be using the assault ramp anyway. I've always assumed the side doors are just there for convenience, rather than for quick egress.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Aesthetically I like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> in the back, but the hurricanes and flamers up front.  I think having the godhammers forward makes it a little front heavy.<br /> <br /> In earlier editions, the instructions said you could use either, so if anyone give you flack, just ignore them.<br /> <br /> Here is a pic from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(143);'>WD</span> 245 where they introduce the new kit:<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/472590-LR%20MFA%20WD%20245.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/3/11/472590_sm-LR%20MFA%20WD%20245.jpg" border="0" /></a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 00:18:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ cool, definitely puts my mind at east to know I'm not the only one doing/planning to do this <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> thanks, all]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 00:20:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So the Land Raider has been around since the begining of the game, right? I'm sure that if it mattered <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would have chimed in with the answer by now. Although really they have, as artwork clearly shows both positions used at one time or another.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 04:23:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Solis Luna Astrum]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/528507/5645552.page"><b>Solis Luna Astrum wrote:</b></a><br/>So the Land Raider has been around since the begining of the game, right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> The Land Raider has existed in the game since Rogue Trader. The current model though has only been around since 3rd edition. <br /> <br /> And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <i>did</i> 'chime in with an answer'... the original building instructions had it as optional.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 04:47:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ To be fair, the mark one land raider had the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> fixed in only the front position, no options.  While my old <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> took a melta hit on the back shelf of my car on a summer day, you can see that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> should be mounted front.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/420801-LRs%20side.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/10/12/420801_sm-LRs%20side.JPG" border="0" /></a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 05:28:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Duplicate...<br /> <br />  <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528274.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528274.page</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 May 2013 06:08:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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