swagmasteryolo wrote:
I read in a bit of fluff in one of the codex's or something that in each Terminator Crux, there is a fragment of the sword the Emperor used to kill Horus. Due to the sheer number of terminators, both loyal and traitor, wouldn't the size of each fragment be microscopic, unless his sword was 5 stories high.

swagmasteryolo wrote:
I read in a bit of fluff in one of the codex's or something that in each Terminator Crux, there is a fragment of the sword the Emperor used to kill Horus. Due to the sheer number of terminators, both loyal and traitor, wouldn't the size of each fragment be microscopic, unless his sword was 5 stories high.

SerQuintus wrote:
As with many things 40k the ORIGINAL write-up makes the most sense: It was Terminator Captain's only.

Thatguyhsagun wrote:

SerQuintus wrote:
As with many things 40k the ORIGINAL write-up makes the most sense: It was Terminator Captain's only.

yeah. when you think about it, there'd be about a minimum of 62,000 suits of termi armor with the shards in it. that's absurd

 Alfndrate wrote:

Thatguyhsagun wrote:

SerQuintus wrote:
As with many things 40k the ORIGINAL write-up makes the most sense: It was Terminator Captain's only.

yeah. when you think about it, there'd be about a minimum of 62,000 suits of termi armor with the shards in it. that's absurd

But we also have to take into account 1)This is 40k we're talking about, absurd should be it's middle name (i.e. Warhammer Absurd 40,000 the 6th, Esq) 2) The Crux Terminatus with fragments of the Emperor's armor is legend. So while we have 10 Terminator captains in the 1st company, times that by 1,000 Space Marine chapters that gives us a better number of 10,000. This means that the other 90 Terminators with the Crux Terminator on their suit means are made of stone and metal.

Edit: Another alternative would be going back to the "relic" idea. Take the 10,000 Crux Terminatus from Terminator Captains that have fragments of the Emperor's armor in them, and then split those up amongst the chapter. They still technically have fragments of the Emperor's armor, they're just smaller, but would probably just considered just as holy.


For completion and curiosity's sake, where did you get the minimum number of 62,000?

Lexicanum wrote:The Crux Terminatus is a stone medallion awarded to highly skilled and experienced Space Marine Veterans. All members of a Chapter trained in the use of Terminator Armour will have been first awarded the Crux Terminatus. These badges, set into the left shoulder plate of Terminator armour, are highly distinctive and usually fashioned from stone.

 Alfndrate wrote:

The idea behind the Crux Terminatus is no different than the "relics" of modern Christianity, in which small pieces of the saint's bones are kept on display, and that by touching a holy image (say a medallion of that saint) to the relic,.

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I'd say that they certainly could have 62k suits of armor with a 'shard' of the Emperor's own armor in it, as they don't define the size of that shard. It could be a monofiliment cover for the Crux sliced from the armor in such a way that could allow for a massive number to be created.

 mattyrm wrote:
It says sliver of armor in the 5th SM codex, I remember reading it.

A sliver, can be a tiny little wee bit sliced off a shoulder guard or something, so i reckon you could get like 20,000 bits from one piece of armor, I doubt it is enough of a piece to be fluff breaking anyway!

Durandal wrote:
Note in the Horus Heresy book 1, there is no mention of terminator armor containing a shard at all.