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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello , i have a problem becouse i lose my yesterday game ( very much , i killed 3-5 models... ) as necron vs long range army ( large blast s8 ap3 48'' range etc) and now im searching allies with cheap but powerfull long range support , what is better tau or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> or even orks,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span> ?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ what units did you have? what did your opponent play? <br /> <br /> this may be a tactics issue not an ally issue<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Necrons have plenty of ways to take it to enemy artillery. <br /> <br /> Like Mali asks. What was your list? <br /> <br /> What terrain and mission was it too]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:32:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This time i lose with necron ;p<br /> My list :<br /> Overlord ( warscythe orb 2+/3++) with 7 lychguard with cryptek( veil of darkness)<br /> 2 ghost ark with 5 warriors each<br /> 20 warriors foot<br /> 2 annihilation barge <br /> <br /> His list:<br /> 2 doomsday ark...<br /> annihilation barge<br /> 2 night scythe with 5 immortals <br /> cheap overlord - warscuthe orb<br /> 3 wraiths<br /> 2x 5warriors ( cheap hidden troops<br /> <br /> vanguard strike deployment<br /> my first turn nothing... ( 24" range etc. )<br /> his first turn explode my ghost ark and annihilation barge <br /> its 5,6 pen and 3+ explode ( <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 1 from the doomsday ark )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:41:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ seams like you have a more melee set up. Did your Anni barge just roll badly??<br /> <br /> im not as good with Necron as I am with my elder but from what I do know it seams it was more of a bad match up. so before you go looking at allies look at your list building. <br /> <br /> pick up things like shooty destroyes night/doom scythes immortals. at least that is what I see in my meta a lot of. I rarely see foot sloggy warriors unless its nothing but foot slogy <br /> <br /> or wait for an experienced necron player to post =P]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:20:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mali i was thinking about doom scythes but i would lose my ghost ark/annihiliation barge  anyway ( i have to wait for second turn ) and s7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span>- isnt so good vs av13 <br /> <br />  really destroyers... the worst model in necron army ( and flayed ones )<br /> 3 destroyers with lascannon cost me 180 points and its only 3 shots with bs4 without twin linked or something]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:35:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ LOOTAS! DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:06:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @tarkin, did you take out the Doomsday Arks with the Lychguard in T2?  Really, this looks like bad match up more than a need for allies.  Crons generally don't need allies.<br /> <br /> In this case, making the Doomsday arks move is critical.  With your Lychguard you should have no problem doing that.  So T1, if you don't get first turn, deploy behind <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> blocking terrain.  Veil lych in to take out Doomsday arks.  As soon as they move, you should be fine.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>Btw</span>, Heavy destroyers might help your cause here.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:42:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ MarkCron You mean 5 destroyers  -3 with lascannon for example. I will try this but i was already thinking about 3 broadsides or hammerhead ^^]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:19:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Heavy destroyers are units that give you long range high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> and low <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> shooting.  I wouldn't combine them, just take a couple of heavy destroyers.  However, my comment was simply to illustrate that heavy destroyers may be useful - you apparently don't think they are<br /> <br /> I don't necessarily think they are the answer here, because you would have to rebuild your list to get them in.  As I said though, with Lychguard, this matchup may be just a tactics question.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:33:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Why only 5 warriors in each ghost ark? <br /> <br /> If you pack in 10 you can get potentially up to 40 shots out of it turn 2. Flat out turn 1 for a 4+ jink.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>my first turn nothing... ( 24" range etc. ) </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Literally nothing? how defensive did he deploy in vanguard strike? were you able to use terrain to block <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span>?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:32:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ DOOMONKYOU <br /> -5 warriors in ghost ark becouse i didnt have points left and i used it to get d3 warriors each turn ;p , you know ghost ark + blob of warriors<br /> <br /> -he deployed in right top corner ( me opposite ) i had only little hill that i couldnt hide all vehicle ( he could see it ) so the distance between us was about 35'' or more<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:46:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tarkin1230]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/539758/5846162.page"><b>tarkin1230 wrote:</b></a><br/>DOOMONKYOU <br /> -5 warriors in ghost ark becouse i didnt have points left and i used it to get d3 warriors each turn ;p , you know ghost ark + blob of warriors<br /> <br /> -he deployed in right top corner ( me opposite ) i had only little hill that i couldnt hide all vehicle ( he could see it ) so the distance between us was about 35'' or more<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Ummm....you can only regenerate to starting unit size with warriors and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(574);'>GA</span> (or are you referring to replenishing your 20 man blob?)<br /> <br /> To summarise this game you lost, <br /> <br /> a)  You deployed over 35" away (which doesn't help because Stationary Doomsday arks shoot 72" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>iirc</span>)<br /> b)  There was no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> blocking terrain<br /> c)  He had first turn<br /> d)  There was no night fight for this mission?<br /> <br /> In this case, a solar pulse would have helped a lot because a,b,c are not things you can fix with an army list change (unless you buy an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> and put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(574);'>GA</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(447);'>AB</span> behind that for the 25% obscured).  Maybe drop 1 Lychguard and a couple of warriors to get a cryptek with pulse?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh, and if you still want allies with long range, maybe the new eldar.  Don't war walkers with scatter lasers have a long range?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:01:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Either a look at your list or a tactics change. <br /> <br /> Are you running 4++ lychguards? <br /> <br /> Try running the ghost arks 10 warriors in each, flat out them for a 4+ jink. <br /> <br /> Have you got any other units?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:50:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I love me some missilesides spewing out 36+ S7 shots per turn.  ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Kain]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I bought 2 night scythe and another annihilation barge ;p , i will try use solar pulse in my next game ( maybe with imothekh ;p )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:20:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I your going imotehk a cryptek of eternity is a must, you get 1 re-roll a phase, so you can re-roll the dice to see if night fighting is in effect. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>iirc</span> the lightning strom doesn't work with solar pulse, but imotek automatically makes it nightfighting turn 1 <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I always enjoy running a monolith, 14/14/14 with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 3 pie plate. And when you deep strike it a unit can disembark from the eternity gate<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:46:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I might be going Tau myself.<br /> Even though I dislikes them, I have learned to love them.<br /> <br /> Being a great ally to Necrons is just a bonus <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> Imagine the pain you can bring when all your Battlesuites have Night Vision while Imothek and his Cryptek keep it night for a couple of turns.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Imagine the pain you can bring to your Tau when Imotekh's lightning hits them.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>Imo</span> doesn't play nicely with allies.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Looking for the allies for Necrons , tau/csm ?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Imagine the pain you can bring to your Tau when Imotekh's lightning hits them. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>Imo</span> doesn't play nicely with allies.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> rofl  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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