<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard. my win/loss ratio to be determined by two rolls at the beginning of the game (who goes first and initiative)
In order to try and combat this I have decided to ally in some of my imperial guard and use the bikes as a mobile reserve (quite literally) to rescue my gun line.
Here is a copy of my previous list

My main question is which of the following two approaches is better and are there any glaring improvements I need to make.

List one

White Scars with Imperial Guard allies

HQ

Azrael

Troops

6 man RW attack squad, 2 meltas, Attack bike Multi Melta

6 man RW attack squad, 2 meltas, Attack bike Multi Melta

6 man RW attack squad, 2 meltas, Attack bike Multi Melta

Fast Attack

5 man Black Knight Squad. Grenade Launcher,

Imperial Guard Allies

HQ

Company Command Squad, Plasma gun, Master of Ordanace,

Troops

Platoon Command Squad 3 flamers (in vendetta)

3 Infantry Squads Lascannons, melta guns (led by Azrael)

Heavy

2 Hydras (for Wave serpents, will probably reserve these)

Fast Attack

Vendetta

= 1748

List 2

Imperial Guard with White Scar Allies

HQ

Company Command Squad

Troops

Veterans, Demolitions, heavy flamer, 2 flamers (in Vendetta)

Platoon Command Squad

3 Infantry Squads Lascannons, melta guns (led by Azrael)

HWT (mortar)

Heavy

Basilisk

Basilsik

2 Hydras

Fast

Vendetta

White Scar Allies

Azrael

Troops

6 man RW attack squad, 2 meltas, Attack bike Multi Melta

Fast Attack

5 Black Knights, grenade Launcher

= 1746

I appreciate this is a wall of text so thanks if you’ve made it this far, let me know what you think all criticism welcome.
Cheers
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5932111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5932111.page GMT 1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard. IG allies since you can pack a lot of guard into an allied detachment forceorg chart. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5932358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5932358.page GMT 1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard.
 namiel wrote:
Sammael>Azrael unless you plan on using deathwing as well. Sammael is better all around. I would start there with your first change. Also I would go with IG allies since you can pack a lot of guard into an allied detachment forceorg chart.


I like Azrael with allied guard as he gives the whole 30 man blob a 4++ and makes them a more intimidating prospect to assault. I think you are probably right about the guard allies though, would you make any changes to that list?
Cheers]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5933250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5933250.page GMT Re:1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard. GK, and get coteaz? gives you a reroll and makes your enemy reroll to steal.
Add in 1-2 dreadknights with your bikes and bam! you got a in your face shooty army with a side of assault you round 2!
Also if your running ravenwing I would suggest using the DAKKA banner, because it makes you spit out a grand total of 72 bolter shots a round.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5934813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5934813.page GMT Re:1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard.
Jpat1213 wrote:
Maybe if you want to go first allie in GK, and get coteaz? gives you a reroll and makes your enemy reroll to steal.
Add in 1-2 dreadknights with your bikes and bam! you got a in your face shooty army with a side of assault you round 2!
Also if your running ravenwing I would suggest using the DAKKA banner, because it makes you spit out a grand total of 72 bolter shots a round.


Interesting idea, trying to take someone who is more likely to give me first turn. There is a DE character who does this as well I believe....
My pure RW list always includes the dakka banner and can spit out 112 T/L bolter shots at 24", doesn't help if I don't get first turn though...
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 jamin484 wrote:
 namiel wrote:
Sammael>Azrael unless you plan on using deathwing as well. Sammael is better all around. I would start there with your first change. Also I would go with IG allies since you can pack a lot of guard into an allied detachment forceorg chart.


I like Azrael with allied guard as he gives the whole 30 man blob a 4++ and makes them a more intimidating prospect to assault. I think you are probably right about the guard allies though, would you make any changes to that list?
Cheers


recheck the rule because he may not give the 4++ to an allied army ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5957265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5957265.page GMT 1750 Tournament list Ravenwing with allied Imperial Guard.
 namiel wrote:
 jamin484 wrote:
 namiel wrote:
Sammael>Azrael unless you plan on using deathwing as well. Sammael is better all around. I would start there with your first change. Also I would go with IG allies since you can pack a lot of guard into an allied detachment forceorg chart.


I like Azrael with allied guard as he gives the whole 30 man blob a 4++ and makes them a more intimidating prospect to assault. I think you are probably right about the guard allies though, would you make any changes to that list?
Cheers


recheck the rule because he may not give the 4++ to an allied army


He does, His rules state that he givesa 4++ to the squad he is in and as long as he can be apart of the squad they have it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5957438.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/545234/5957438.page GMT