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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok so 1850pts of lovely av14! feel free to gimme some advice as this is a test. i have not used many battlewagons before.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> 170pt<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> 570pt<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> 510pt<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> 360pt<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> <br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> 240pt<br /> <br /> <br /> So we go rollin up with nothin for them to hit but are av14. Once we get there we unlock and start smaching em up! keep the nobz in the wagy as long as they can hold up. And keeping them all within the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFFs</span> for dem saves that we boyz never get.and if we see some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>av</span> we go and smash it to death with are deffrollas!<br /> Im feeling that flyers may hurt me. thats my only worry.<br /> Gimme some feedback pros/cons?<br />  also ignore my grammar or spelling!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd drop a Nob Battlewagon, and use the points to make the other two Nob Battlewagons worth taking. Deff rollas are rubbish once you get all their tanks <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>, best to have some klaws and such inside them to make it worth your while.<br /> <br /> So;<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>- Battlewagon @ 3 Nobs [190]<br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and bosspole on Big Meks [60]<br /> + Upgrade both Nob Squads to MegaNobs [120]<br /> + Give remaining MegaNobz Kombi Skorchas [10]</div></blockquote><br /> Much, much better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>, as long as I got the numbers right]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well your flier defense is the dakka jets, so I'd upg. Them to fighter ace for the 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> against flyers, also useful for Eldar wave serpents.<br /> <br /> your real weakness is drop pods, generally equipped with melts and flamer marines.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5b8ee00e850bd94529d0d55a4bc72f10.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970038.page"><b>firmlog wrote:</b></a><br/>Well your flier defense is the dakka jets, so I'd upg. Them to fighter ace for the 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> against flyers, also useful for Eldar wave serpents.<br /> <br /> your real weakness is drop pods, generally equipped with melts and flamer marines.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> fighta ace makes it so you are bs3 vs skimmers does not increase your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> sadly.<br /> and the droppods with flamers/meltas have always been orks real weakness <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span><br /> adding fighta ace is almost a waste for its point cost. you have so many shots twinlinked makes it good enough :&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5968737.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>I'd drop a Nob Battlewagon, and use the points to make the other two Nob Battlewagons worth taking. Deff rollas are rubbish once you get all their tanks <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>, best to have some klaws and such inside them to make it worth your while.<br /> <br /> So;<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>- Battlewagon @ 3 Nobs [190]<br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and bosspole on Big Meks [60]<br /> + Upgrade both Nob Squads to MegaNobs [120]<br /> + Give remaining MegaNobz Kombi Skorchas [10]</div></blockquote><br /> Much, much better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>, as long as I got the numbers right</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah i like that idea. im gonna stay away from giving the meks a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> cus it is alot of points to sink into a character who will get pointed at and laughed at.<br /> i have a update for the list i will be posting taking your idea and changing it alittle.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a0ae163b7d9094e8d2f302034031fd60.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5968587.page"><b>Orkimedezz wrote:</b></a><br/>Ok so 1850pts of lovely av14! feel free to gimme some advice as this is a test. i have not used many battlewagons before.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> 170pt<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> Nobzx3 2 shoota/skorcha<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,Deffrolla,1xBig shoota <br /> 570pt<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> 510pt<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> 360pt<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> <br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> 240pt<br /> <br /> <br /> So we go rollin up with nothin for them to hit but are av14. Once we get there we unlock and start smaching em up! keep the nobz in the wagy as long as they can hold up. And keeping them all within the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFFs</span> for dem saves that we boyz never get.and if we see some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>av</span> we go and smash it to death with are deffrollas!<br /> Im feeling that flyers may hurt me. thats my only worry.<br /> Gimme some feedback pros/cons?<br />  also ignore my grammar or spelling!<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> NEW IDEA UPDATED LIST 1TIME:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>kff</span>,cybork<br /> <br /> Big mek:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>kff</span>,cybork<br /> 190pts<br /> <br /> ELITES:<br /> Meganobz 3x shoota/skorcha x3<br /> Battlewagon Deffrolla,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,x1 Big shoosta<br /> <br /> Meganobz 3x shoota/skorcha x3<br /> Battlewagon Deffrolla,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,x1 Big shoosta<br /> 510pt<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> 19boyz,2big shootas<br /> nob,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span><br /> <br /> Gretchin 10xw/Runt <br /> 550pt<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> <br /> battlewagon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>RPJ</span>,deffrolla, 1xBig shoota <br /> 360pt<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> <br /> Dakkajet,Extra Supy Shoosty<br /> 240pt<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Gave the meks the cyborks cus ik they will run up and get assulted and as my squishy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> i feel they need some protection from everything that will ignore SV6+<br /> Used dakkamites idea of meganobz instead of normal nobz<br /> and threw in some gretz cus i may need some backfeild camping put em in runes with a objective and grab my 2+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(315);'>GTG</span> save.<br /> sadly am down to 5 battlewagons :&lt; ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A Big Mek has a Nob statline, theres nothing wrong with giving him a klaw. You'll want each MAN unit to be lead by a Big Mek with a bosspole, and then you can use that Mek to challenge out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> characters that would decimate your squad. With a Klaw he may even win those challenges]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970725.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>A Big Mek has a Nob statline, theres nothing wrong with giving him a klaw. You'll want each MAN unit to be lead by a Big Mek with a bosspole, and then you can use that Mek to challenge out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> characters that would decimate your squad. With a Klaw he may even win those challenges</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The only real problem is that he is strength 3 so a klaw is more overpriced for what it does compared to a nob which is a justified point cost]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/090544c84686b46ac14f25861ae41f98.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970779.page"><b>A GumyBear wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970725.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>A Big Mek has a Nob statline, theres nothing wrong with giving him a klaw. You'll want each MAN unit to be lead by a Big Mek with a bosspole, and then you can use that Mek to challenge out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> characters that would decimate your squad. With a Klaw he may even win those challenges</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The only real problem is that he is strength 3 so a klaw is more overpriced for what it does compared to a nob which is a justified point cost</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> ze big mek is str4 base.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a0ae163b7d9094e8d2f302034031fd60.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970808.page"><b>Orkimedezz wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/090544c84686b46ac14f25861ae41f98.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970779.page"><b>A GumyBear wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970725.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>A Big Mek has a Nob statline, theres nothing wrong with giving him a klaw. You'll want each MAN unit to be lead by a Big Mek with a bosspole, and then you can use that Mek to challenge out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> characters that would decimate your squad. With a Klaw he may even win those challenges</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The only real problem is that he is strength 3 so a klaw is more overpriced for what it does compared to a nob which is a justified point cost</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> ze big mek is str4 base.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> hes a nob with a better leadership<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970725.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>A Big Mek has a Nob statline, theres nothing wrong with giving him a klaw. You'll want each MAN unit to be lead by a Big Mek with a bosspole, and then you can use that Mek to challenge out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> characters that would decimate your squad. With a Klaw he may even win those challenges</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> i understand the bosspole and i will change to a bosspole. but the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> is just useless on him. he needs a cybork to be able to use his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>. so hes better off dieing with a choppa in hand rather than a spendy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He doesn't need Cybork to take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> any more than a Nob does. Once he gets to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> has done its job - so just treat him like a Nob at that point. And Nobs are worthless without a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3704ec1c08874dade1c2474ed9f330a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547394/5970899.page"><b>Dakkamite wrote:</b></a><br/>He doesn't need Cybork to take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> any more than a Nob does. Once he gets to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> has done its job - so just treat him like a Nob at that point. And Nobs are worthless without a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah but i still find a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> on characters rather worthless. its more of a kan opener to say the least. with the I1 from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> they just roll over and die or if they live somehow they never make there points up.<br /> but most people dont challange you out unless they know they have a better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> wep than ur arm. or they throw i worthless marine sarg at you to fight.]]></description>
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