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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><i><br /> <b>Chaos Lord</b><br /> Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War<br /> Axe of Blind Fury, Bolt Pistol<br /> <br /> <b>Kharn the Betrayer</b><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Cultists</b>x10<br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Space Marines</b><br /> 8x Chaos Space Marine, Mark of Khorne, Meltagun, Veteran of the long war <br /> Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Sword<br /> Chaos Rhino<br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Space Marines</b><br /> 9x Chaos Space Marine, Plasma Gunx2, Veteran of the long war<br /> Aspiring Champion; Combi-bolter, Power Sword<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>Fast Attack</i><b><br /> [b]Chaos Bikers</b><br /> 4x Chaos Biker, Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne, 2x Meltagun, Veteran of the Long War<br /> Chaos Biker Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Lance<br /> <br /> <b>Heldrake</b><br /> Baleflamer<br /> <br /> <b>Heldrake</b><br /> Baleflamer<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>Heavy Support</i>[/b]<br /> <b>Havocs</b>x5<br /> 4x Autocannon, Veteran of the long war (5pts)<br /> <br /> <b>Obliterators</b>x2<br /> Mark of Nurgle<br /> <br /> <b>Obliterators </b>x2<br /> Mark of Nurgle <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Aegis Defence Line</b><br /> Quadgun<br /> <br /> <br /> TOTAL:1846 pts<br /> <br /> Kharn joins the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> unit with melta.  Lord is riding with the bikers. Cultists are only for objective holding(hopefully there will be a safe objective spot).  Havocs are in defence line and their champ is using the quadgun obviously. Rest it clear I guess. This army is restricted by the models I own actually.  I have 9 khorne berserkers and rhino extra, but couldnt find anywhere to add them without passing 1850 pts.<br /> We have a tournament next weekend. I really appreciate all comments, please.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:07:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ehh...I don't know how I feel about a single Rhino. Either go big or go home with them, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>. I disagree with the proposition that Rhinos are always First Blood waiting to happen, but when you only bring one, that becomes an accurate description. <br /> <br /> 3 Troops choices are pretty light at 1850 especially considering that one of them is a unit of 10 cultists, and another is there solely as a delivery system for Kharn. <br /> <br /> As it is, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> seem to lack a delivery system. This is why a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> like Huron, giving your guys Infiltrate, is such a big deal. It lets you get closer to your opponent. It may not be as fluffy, but Huron gives you almost everything you get from Kharn, without mulching your own guys, and with the benefit of granting Infiltrate to D3 units. His main benefit is that he packs an Armorbane weapon, and is a mid-level threat in Challenges since he does pack an AP2 weapon. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:14:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh I have a ready for action huron model. Can do that. About being low on troop choices, I totally agree but this is what I have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:22:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><i><br /> <b>Chaos Lord</b><br /> Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War<br /> Axe of Blind Fury, Brand of Skalathrax<br /> <br /> <b>Huron Blackheart</b><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Cultists</b>x11<br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Space Marines</b><br /> 9x Chaos Space Marine, Mark of Khorne, Meltagunx2, Veteran of the long war <br /> Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Chaos Space Marines</b><br /> 9x Chaos Space Marine, Plasma Gunx2, Veteran of the long war<br /> Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <i>Fast Attack</i><b><br /> [b]Chaos Bikers</b><br /> 4x Chaos Biker, Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne, 2x Meltagun, Veteran of the Long War<br /> Chaos Biker Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Lance<br /> <br /> <b>Heldrake</b><br /> Baleflamer<br /> <br /> <b>Heldrake</b><br /> Baleflamer<br /> <br /> <br /> <i>Heavy Support</i>[/b]<br /> <b>Havocs</b>x5<br /> 4x Autocannon, Veteran of the long war (5pts)<br /> <br /> <b>Obliterators</b>x2<br /> Mark of Nurgle<br /> <br /> <b>Obliterators </b>x2<br /> Mark of Nurgle <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Aegis Defence Line</b><br /> Quadgun<br /> <br /> <br /> TOTAL:1850 pts<br /> <br /> Changed the list a bit. Removed Kharn and put Huron in. Removed the rhino in melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> unit. The units will go frontlines by infiltrate. At worst scenario, if I have 1 infiltrating unit, I will make huron infiltrator himself and he joins the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> unit with meltas. In our meta there are mostly space marine and one eldar player. That's why I take the Brand with chaos lord. AP3 and no cover save works both for space marines and eldar.<br /> I can take more criticism. 1 week left to tournament, I'm trying to make it as best as I can till then.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:37:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why does you Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:38:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547501/5987096.page"><b>johnnytexas wrote:</b></a><br/>Why does <strike>you</strike> <b>the</b> Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?</div></blockquote>Why would it?<br /> What weapon option would work with autocannon?<br /> The Champ is the least useful member of that unit, and likely the first casualty. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:18:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I normally use my havocs to hold an objective, if you end up getting assaulted your champ can challenge and possible buy your unit more time until troops can arrive to help]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Aug 2013 01:57:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/547501/5987096.page"><b>johnnytexas wrote:</b></a><br/>Why does you Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?</div></blockquote><br /> I use my autocannon havocs on aegis d.line. The champ is using the quadgun, so you can say he has quadgun as special weapon choice <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:43:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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