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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:07:51
Subject: 1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Chaos Lord
Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War
Axe of Blind Fury, Bolt Pistol
Kharn the Betrayer
Troops
Chaos Cultistsx10
Chaos Space Marines
8x Chaos Space Marine, Mark of Khorne, Meltagun, Veteran of the long war
Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Sword
Chaos Rhino
Chaos Space Marines
9x Chaos Space Marine, Plasma Gunx2, Veteran of the long war
Aspiring Champion; Combi-bolter, Power Sword
Fast Attack
[b]Chaos Bikers
4x Chaos Biker, Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne, 2x Meltagun, Veteran of the Long War
Chaos Biker Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Lance
Heldrake
Baleflamer
Heldrake
Baleflamer
Heavy Support[/b]
Havocsx5
4x Autocannon, Veteran of the long war (5pts)
Obliteratorsx2
Mark of Nurgle
Obliterators x2
Mark of Nurgle
Aegis Defence Line
Quadgun
TOTAL:1846 pts
Kharn joins the CSM unit with melta. Lord is riding with the bikers. Cultists are only for objective holding(hopefully there will be a safe objective spot). Havocs are in defence line and their champ is using the quadgun obviously. Rest it clear I guess. This army is restricted by the models I own actually. I have 9 khorne berserkers and rhino extra, but couldnt find anywhere to add them without passing 1850 pts.
We have a tournament next weekend. I really appreciate all comments, please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:14:53
Subject: Re:1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Ehh...I don't know how I feel about a single Rhino. Either go big or go home with them, IMO. I disagree with the proposition that Rhinos are always First Blood waiting to happen, but when you only bring one, that becomes an accurate description.
3 Troops choices are pretty light at 1850 especially considering that one of them is a unit of 10 cultists, and another is there solely as a delivery system for Kharn.
As it is, the CSM seem to lack a delivery system. This is why a HQ like Huron, giving your guys Infiltrate, is such a big deal. It lets you get closer to your opponent. It may not be as fluffy, but Huron gives you almost everything you get from Kharn, without mulching your own guys, and with the benefit of granting Infiltrate to D3 units. His main benefit is that he packs an Armorbane weapon, and is a mid-level threat in Challenges since he does pack an AP2 weapon.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/21 19:15:47
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/21 19:22:45
Subject: Re:1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Oh I have a ready for action huron model. Can do that. About being low on troop choices, I totally agree but this is what I have atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/26 06:37:47
Subject: Re:1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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HQ
Chaos Lord
Juggernaut of Khorne, Mark of Khorne, Sigil of corruption, Veterans of the Long War
Axe of Blind Fury, Brand of Skalathrax
Huron Blackheart
Troops
Chaos Cultistsx11
Chaos Space Marines
9x Chaos Space Marine, Mark of Khorne, Meltagunx2, Veteran of the long war
Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, CCW
Chaos Space Marines
9x Chaos Space Marine, Plasma Gunx2, Veteran of the long war
Aspiring Champion; Bolt Pistol, CCW
Fast Attack
[b]Chaos Bikers
4x Chaos Biker, Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne, 2x Meltagun, Veteran of the Long War
Chaos Biker Champion; Bolt Pistol, Power Lance
Heldrake
Baleflamer
Heldrake
Baleflamer
Heavy Support[/b]
Havocsx5
4x Autocannon, Veteran of the long war (5pts)
Obliteratorsx2
Mark of Nurgle
Obliterators x2
Mark of Nurgle
Aegis Defence Line
Quadgun
TOTAL:1850 pts
Changed the list a bit. Removed Kharn and put Huron in. Removed the rhino in melta CSM unit. The units will go frontlines by infiltrate. At worst scenario, if I have 1 infiltrating unit, I will make huron infiltrator himself and he joins the CSM unit with meltas. In our meta there are mostly space marine and one eldar player. That's why I take the Brand with chaos lord. AP3 and no cover save works both for space marines and eldar.
I can take more criticism. 1 week left to tournament, I'm trying to make it as best as I can till then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/26 22:38:41
Subject: 1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Fresh-Faced New User
Fort worth, texas
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Why does you Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/26 23:18:05
Subject: 1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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johnnytexas wrote:Why does you the Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?
Why would it?
What weapon option would work with autocannon?
The Champ is the least useful member of that unit, and likely the first casualty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/27 01:57:19
Subject: 1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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Fresh-Faced New User
Fort worth, texas
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I normally use my havocs to hold an objective, if you end up getting assaulted your champ can challenge and possible buy your unit more time until troops can arrive to help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/27 14:43:36
Subject: 1850 CSM list for upcoming tournament
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johnnytexas wrote:Why does you Aspiring champ in your havoc squad not have an upgraded weapon?
I use my autocannon havocs on aegis d.line. The champ is using the quadgun, so you can say he has quadgun as special weapon choice
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