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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi All,<br /> <br /> Looking for the best daemons list to run in a tournament I'll play shortly against friends only (most of them play nids or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>). Can use any help since I am pretty new to the 6th new rules.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Bloodthirster with exalted reward (ethernal blade)<br /> Great Unclean One with lvl3 Biomancy, 2x greater reward<br /> Herald of Slaanesh with Exalted Locus of Beguilement, Exalted Reward (Polygraph), Lesser Reward<br /> Herald of Tzeentch level 3 Change/ Divination, Exalted Reward (Polygraph), Exalted Locus of Conjuration<br /> <br /> TROOP<br /> 20x Daemonettes with Allure upgrade<br /> 10x Pink horrors<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT<br /> Soulgrinder with pleghm and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> ALLIES<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Daemon Prince with wings, power armor, black mace<br /> Chaos Lord with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> TROOP<br /> 6x Plague Marines with 2 plasma and rhino<br /> 6x Plague Marines with 2 plasma and rhino<br /> <br /> Obviously I like running <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> but I do realize this list might have to change a bit to be more competitive. <br /> <br /> Any and all comments are welcome.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ add more troops]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are they allowing Double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>?<br /> <br /> If so, you'll need more Daemon troops.<br /> <br /> Also, looks like only one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> for your allies, too.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 109]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ OrksesNevaLooz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah your list is not legal. You have 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices for the primary and only 2 troops choices. Likewise the Alludes has 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> where you're only allowed 1. <br /> <br /> It looks like your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> is not marked which is also illegal.<br /> <br /> You have no troops choices for your allies as Plague Marines are elites.<br /> <br /> It also looks like you want 2 of the same Hell forged artefacts which is also not allowed.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> As for best list at 2k with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Allies something like this would be fun:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Fateweaver 300<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 3 Herald: Disc, Exhalted Reward (Grimoire) 150<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 3 Herald: Disc, Greater Reward (sword), Exhalted Locus 175<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 3 Herald: Disc, Greater Reward (sword) 140<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 3 Herald: Disc, Lesser Reward (sword) 130<br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> 10 Horrors 90<br /> 10 Horrors 90<br /> 10 Horrors 90<br /> 10 Horrors 90<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK<br /> 9 Screamers 225<br /> <br /> ALLIES<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince: Tzeentch, wings, power armour, Black Mace, Burning Brand 295<br /> <br /> 10 Cultists 50<br /> <br /> Helldrake: baleflamer 170<br /> <br /> Two flying AP3 flamers plus 8d6 S5 shots from the Horrors. Fateweaver using his reroll on the grimoire. Then the Screamer choir. 26 wounds with 8 divination powers almost guaranteeing Foreboding for that 4++ which the Grimoire makes a 2++ retelling 1s because you're Tzeentch, prescience plus probably 14d6 S6 shots and a boat load of AP2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> attacks as you multi-assault everything with your rerollable 2++ Screamerstar of ultimate doom. Just pray you don't go 2nd...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:23:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/65afb78ba94982239ee431d965e2013a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/548877/5994132.page"><b>FlingitNow wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah your list is not legal. You have 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices for the primary and only 2 troops choices. Likewise the Alludes has 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> where you're only allowed 1. <br /> <br /> It looks like your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> is not marked which is also illegal.<br /> <br /> You have no troops choices for your allies as Plague Marines are elites.<br /> <br /> It also looks like you want 2 of the same Hell forged artefacts which is also not allowed.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You are right that his 3 Primary Detatchement <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> is illegal, unless its double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> which I believe his list is, then he needs 4 Daemon Troops.<br /> <br /> You are spot on, Plague Marines cannot be troops in an allied detatcment, only when you have a Nurgle Lord in a Primary Detatchment can you make Plague Marines Troops.  Again his list design looks like double <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>.<br /> <br /> Also, you can't take multiple Portalglyphs(I assume thats what Exalted Polygraph is).<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The 8-10 Attack Blood Thirster is pretty nasty.  So is the Biomancy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(233);'>GUO</span>, I once face two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(233);'>GUOs</span> at 1k, nasty.<br /> <br /> Looks you need a fundamental list redesign to come up with a legal list.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Edit:  FlingitNow's list is pretty nasty though it has the potential to fall on its face.  Even with 8 rolls on Divination you still have a 23% chance of not getting Foreboding.  Even with Foreboding you have a chance of failing the psychic test or the 1/9 chance of failing the Grimiore even backed up by Fateweaver.  Though, when it works its virtually unstoppable.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Zagman]]></author>
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