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				<description><![CDATA[ Getting back into the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> world, I've decided to go with Dark angels. (they fit my crabby broody nature haha) I like everything in the codex, And really like the Ravenwing. A quick write up of a list (with some sexy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> goodies added just for spice)<br /> <br /> Sammael<br /> <br /> -R.W Com. Squad<br /> Nade' launcher<br /> Apoth<br /> <br /> R.W Black Knights (3x2)<br /> Nade' launcher<br /> <br /> Raven Wing (5x2)<br /> -Attack Bike<br /> <br /> Raven wing (6)<br /> <br /> Nephlim Fighter<br /> Mega bolter<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (10)<br /> Drop Pod<br /> <br /> Scout Squad (7)<br /> snipers<br /> <br /> Deathstprm Drop pods (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> approved ) 3<br /> Deathstorm Missile launcher x5 (each)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:19:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arrathon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a6549ddfe192d30a6b6761c1ca91073a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6000897.page"><b>Arrathon wrote:</b></a><br/>Getting back into the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> world, I've decided to go with Dark angels. (they fit my crabby broody nature haha) I like everything in the codex, And really like the Ravenwing. A quick write up of a list (with some sexy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> goodies added just for spice)<br /> <br /> Sammael<br /> <br /> -R.W Com. Squad <font color='darkred'>  these are black knights which are 2 points cheaper then a black knights squad.  I would max this unit out.</font><br /> Nade' launcher<br /> Apoth<br /> <br /> R.W Black Knights (3x2)  <font color='red'>I would take this as one squad and combat squad it when needed.  If you play a game with kill points it gives you a harder point for them to get. </font><br /> Nade' launcher<br /> <br /> Raven Wing (5x2)       <font color='darkred'>why only 5??  if you take 6 you can combat squad as needed</font><br /> -Attack Bike<br /> <br /> Raven wing (6)   <font color='red'>  Need some kind of special weapons <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span></font><br /> <br /> Nephlim Fighter    <font color='darkred'>the fliers suck but I take them too just for fluffiness.  gear it towards vehicles or infantry if going for infantry take the darkshroud.</font><br /> Mega bolter<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (10)   Just for gaks and giggles???  <font color='red'>what I would do with them is drop the pod to get more bikes and use them to hold the back field</font><br /> Drop Pod<br /> <br /> Scout Squad (7)  <font color='darkred'> Here is where I would cut to find the points for upgrades.  Snipers are great but they wont hold up to much if they get assaulted by anything halfway decent in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.</font><br /> snipers<br /> <br /> Deathstprm Drop pods (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> approved ) 3  <font color='red'>  I have no idea how these work or the points costs so I cant comment but they sound fun.</font>Deathstorm Missile launcher x5 (each)</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:37:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Dark Angels 1850 (Ravenwing,Ist try)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I would max out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad, they are cheaper and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> really benefit from the Banner of Deviation.<br /> <br /> Black nights, you want at least 6 with one launcher in the squad.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> bikes need x2 special weapons in the squad,  and you also typically want to buy an Attack Bike when you can afford them.  Multi-Meltas are always useful.<br /> <br /> I would drop the pod on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad.  I would also consider dropping the scouts entirely.  <br /> <br /> I'm not sure about the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> drop pods, don't know their rules so I cant comment on them.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Sep 2013 01:37:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark Angels 1850 (Ravenwing,Ist try)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6439f1811e3c2d3f8870ea979b91a5a3.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004588.page"><b>Casper wrote:</b></a><br/>I would max out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad, they are cheaper and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> really benefit from the Banner of Deviation.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>rw</span> command squad are black knights that have plasma talons which receive NO benefit from the standard of devastation]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:34:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Dark Angels 1850 (Ravenwing,Ist try)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004678.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6439f1811e3c2d3f8870ea979b91a5a3.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004588.page"><b>Casper wrote:</b></a><br/>I would max out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad, they are cheaper and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> really benefit from the Banner of Deviation.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>rw</span> command squad are black knights that have plasma talons which receive NO benefit from the standard of devastation</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Right but the biker squads you keep within 6 inches do.  When playing a biker army you need as many shots as possible.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Sep 2013 03:36:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Dark Angels 1850 (Ravenwing,Ist try)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6439f1811e3c2d3f8870ea979b91a5a3.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004800.page"><b>Casper wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004678.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6439f1811e3c2d3f8870ea979b91a5a3.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6004588.page"><b>Casper wrote:</b></a><br/>I would max out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Command Squad, they are cheaper and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> really benefit from the Banner of Deviation.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>rw</span> command squad are black knights that have plasma talons which receive NO benefit from the standard of devastation</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Right but the biker squads you keep within 6 inches do.  When playing a biker army you need as many shots as possible.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Difference of opinion.  Bunching your bikes is a recipe for disaster.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Sep 2013 03:38:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You need a libby with a pfg in here somewhere. Cheap choice and you can't get heldraked as bad ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 1 Sep 2013 08:01:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ VillageZach]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6000958.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a6549ddfe192d30a6b6761c1ca91073a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/549246/6000897.page"><b>Arrathon wrote:</b></a><br/>Getting back into the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> world, I've decided to go with Dark angels. (they fit my crabby broody nature haha) I like everything in the codex, And really like the Ravenwing. A quick write up of a list (with some sexy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> goodies added just for spice)<br /> <br /> Sammael<br /> <br /> -R.W Com. Squad <font color='darkred'>  these are black knights which are 2 points cheaper then a black knights squad.  I would max this unit out.</font><br /> Nade' launcher<br /> Apoth<br /> <br /> R.W Black Knights (3x2)  <font color='red'>I would take this as one squad and combat squad it when needed.  If you play a game with kill points it gives you a harder point for them to get. </font><br /> Nade' launcher<br /> <br /> Raven Wing (5x2)       <font color='darkred'>why only 5??  if you take 6 you can combat squad as needed</font><br /> -Attack Bike<br /> <br /> Raven wing (6)   <font color='red'>  Need some kind of special weapons <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span></font><br /> <br /> Nephlim Fighter    <font color='darkred'>the fliers suck but I take them too just for fluffiness.  gear it towards vehicles or infantry if going for infantry take the darkshroud.</font><br /> Mega bolter<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (10)   Just for gaks and giggles???  <font color='red'>what I would do with them is drop the pod to get more bikes and use them to hold the back field</font><br /> Drop Pod<br /> <br /> Scout Squad (7)  <font color='darkred'> Here is where I would cut to find the points for upgrades.  Snipers are great but they wont hold up to much if they get assaulted by anything halfway decent in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.</font><br /> snipers<br /> <br /> Deathstprm Drop pods (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> approved ) 3  <font color='red'>  I have no idea how these work or the points costs so I cant comment but they sound fun.</font>Deathstorm Missile launcher x5 (each)</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> Hey Guys thanks for the Feedback! <br /> <br /> The Command squad can only be 3 bikes, so they are maxed out. their only there as extra wounds so I don't feel throwing a ton of points for toys on them is a good idea.<br /> <br /> The Black Knights cannot combat squad.(unless I am missing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> or something) But i agree they do need some more toys. <br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> squads need toys as well. I am unsure if I will keep the Attack bikes. I would like to see some speeders in this list to be honest.<br /> <br /> The Neph is simply a Stormtalon with crappy guns. I am still thinking of Cutting this list in half and bringing in Marines as allies for a stormraven<br /> <br /> The Tactucal squad is there to take back field objectives. But , I'll drop the pod, maybe throw in a Flakk missile and let them sit in my backfield.<br /> <br /> Scouts...oh those scouts.. Well with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>'s on my backfield holding, I don't need them!<br /> <br /> DeathStorm Drop pods, These things are so sexy. Each one has FIVE independent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> Missile launcher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 5 ap4 blast pinning. w/re roll of passed pinning checks their first turn in. 12 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(399);'>ARM</span> all around and 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> (not putting the points up) The Missile launcher can be upgraded to 5 Assualt cannons instead for a fee., I love these things, simply a thorn in my opponents side as he cannot ignore these babies<br /> <br />  So after going over all of this, lets see the new list....<br /> <br /> <br /> Sammael<br /> <br /> -R.W Com. Squad<br /> Nade' launcher<br /> Apoth<br /> <br /> Libby<br /> Bike<br /> divination((see below/unsure yet on this guy))<br /> <br /> R.W Black Knights (3x2)<br /> Nade' launcher<br /> <br /> Raven Wing (6x3)<br /> 2x Melta gun<br /> Chainswords<br /> <br /> Nephlim Fighter<br /> Mega bolter<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad (10)<br /> <br /> Deathstorm Drop pods (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> approved ) 3<br /> Deathstorm Missile launcher x5 (each)<br /> <br /> So having 95 points left over, here is what i could add:<br /> <br /> Libby<br /> Bike<br /> divination<br /> -or-<br /> Darkshroud (make the blackknights 1 unit of 6 instead of 2 3's)<br /> 15 points left over<br /> -or-<br /> Flakk Missile upgrade for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad<br /> Razorback w/H.B<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You are missing stuff from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span>.  The command squad can be up to 5 bikes]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ O wow, guess i need to go take a look at that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span> then. Ty very much.<br /> <br /> <br /> added-- Reading the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span> now, Jesus there is aot of errors in this codex... ]]></description>
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