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				<description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8903/jtnd.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> I made this conversion years ago, but of course there are no rules for a dread with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasma cannons so I decided to come up with some stats and fair and balanced points costs for the model to run a  fluffy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LoTD</span> dread in friendly games.<br /> <br /> I wanted to follow the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LoTD</span> theme from the new codex as closely as possible and create a unit that is incredibly tough to kill( because it's a Dread and it's a ghostly spectre) but balanced by points cost so it's not considered cheesy.<br /> <br /> <b>Damocles the Ancient</b><br /> --------------------------------------------------[   Armour    ]------------------------<b>235 Points</b><br /> -------------------------------<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>---<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>---S---F---S---R---I---A---<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>-----------  <br /> ---------------------------------5-----5----6---12-12--10--4--2----3------------<br /> <br /> Wargear:<br /> - Power fist with built in heavy flamer<br /> - Twin linked plasma cannon<br /> - Search light<br /> - Smoke Launchers<br /> <br /> Special rules<br /> - Aid unlooked for<br /> - Fear<br /> - Flaming Projectiles<br /> - Slow and Purposeful<br /> - Unyielding Spectre (5++)<br /> - Venerable<br /> - It will not die<br /> <br /> It's a venerable dread with a heavy flamer so that covers the base cost, I decided the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasma cannon should be 5 points more than a twin linked las cannon since it's a unique weapon. I added 80% to the base dreadnought cost for the extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LoTD</span> and other special rules, +80% is relatively close close to what a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LoTD</span> marine pays for the special rules over a normal marine.<br /> <br /> I decided to stick to special rules only available in the codex already and not give it any silly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(276);'>OTT</span> powers to keep it balanced.<br /> <br /> So what do you all think? Would you play against this in a friendly game or do you think it's undercosted/broken in any way and what would you suggest changing?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Mike712]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LotD</span> but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:57:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Valkyrie]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3a69918b6c6a99b48e399acf9ad385a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/552500/6053618.page"><b>Valkyrie wrote:</b></a><br/>I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LotD</span> but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It's more to do with the immaterial nature of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LoTD</span> dread than age or battle experience, as it doesn't truly exist in the same plane of reality as the foes attacking it, on the other hand 3++, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span> and Venerable may make it just stupidly tough to kill and too much for friendly games, do you think a 5++ in-line with that of contemptor dreads would be more reasonable or just scrap the save all together?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:06:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mike712]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, 3++ is pretty hard to swallow for a dreadnought, it's unprecedented. A 5++ would be reasonable. I'd also up his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> to 13. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:29:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MasterSlowPoke]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 5++ would seem better. Like you said, a 3++, Venerable, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span> is just insanely tough. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:30:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Valkyrie]]></author>
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				<title>Special Charater LoTD Dread.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3a69918b6c6a99b48e399acf9ad385a6.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/552500/6053618.page"><b>Valkyrie wrote:</b></a><br/>I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(83);'>LotD</span> but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This. <br /> <br /> Kind of sick of all the unkillable snowflake characters out there, don't become one of them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:30:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dakkamite]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, the general consensus is that a 5++ is reasonable so I'll stick with that and keep the points the same as before, it's still going to be tough to bring down but not as ridiculous.<br /> <br /> As for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 13 well it's a ven dread not an Ironclad so I feel the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 12 should stay<br /> <br /> Thanks for the input!<br /> <br /> Now time to write some fluff for him!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:45:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mike712]]></author>
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