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				<title>Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If someone could please highlight the pros and cons of each of the choices above, and which would be best for a new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> player - to start I can get the battleforce of one off the above <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:19:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40Khunt3r]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> are really unforgiving right now... And really dull compared to vanilla marines. <br /> <br /> The big con for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> is how expensive our marines are. We pay 2-3 points more per marine for less functionality. <br /> <br /> The pro is that we have the prettiest marine kits in the game, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> If you want to play competitively, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> might not be the best choice.<br /> <br /> Lucarikx]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:25:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lucarikx]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking of playing competitively, yes - So what would be the best choice?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:28:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40Khunt3r]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> have some nifty builds with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> right now that are kinda silly <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> just came out so I'm not sure how they're doing. The coolest lists on paper that I've seen are:<br /> <br /> Salamander Drop List with Vulkan <br /> <br /> Ironclad Drop List (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> or Sallies)<br /> <br /> Super Unkillable <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> Chapter Master of dooooommm (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>, Shield Eternal, Artificer Armor, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span>)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> 1st turn <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> charge<br /> <br /> Better version of Ravenwing with Khan (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span>)<br /> <br /> -----------------------------------<br /> <br /> Hope this helps!<br /> <br /> Lucarikx]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:35:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lucarikx]]></author>
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				<title>Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, when you say Ultramarines, do you mean the actual Ultramarines, and their chapter tactics within codex: space marines, or do you mean just the general Codex: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> book, which includes the Ultramarines and a bunch of other potential chapters?<br /> <br /> If you're a new player you might want to borrow a copy of the codex to look at each of the different chapter tactics?  They build quite a bit differently.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Sep 2013 22:42:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DogofWar1]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I was thinking about doing either ultramarines, the iron hand, salamanders, space wolves or Dark angels <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I seem to be getting more interested in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span>) It just depends on how much a 1000pt army will cost money wise :/, Does the space marine strikeforce contain a basically ready army?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:24:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40Khunt3r]]></author>
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				<title>Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Dark Vengeance is a great way to start a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> army, and it is really cheap too]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:25:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Very Superstitious]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553142/6065313.page"><b>40Khunt3r wrote:</b></a><br/>Yes, I was thinking about doing either ultramarines, the iron hand, salamanders, space wolves or Dark angels <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I seem to be getting more interested in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span>) It just depends on how much a 1000pt army will cost money wise :/, Does the space marine strikeforce contain a basically ready army?</div></blockquote><br /> The space marine strike force is a basic army with 3 troops, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and 1 Elites about 1000 points total (conservative estimate) and if you buy from <a  target="_new" rel="nofollow">thewarstore.com</a> you can git it 20% off price and can put the savings back into making it a real <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> army (add a techmarine/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MOTF</span> to your list)<br /> Dark Vengeance makes an army of 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 1 troop 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span> and 1 Elites of about 600-700 points (dont have the new book but thats about how much in the old one)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:38:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thatguyhsagun]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, the beauty of marines is that power armour is still power armour, and a bolter will always be a bolter.<br /> <br /> Pick whatever chapter you want or make your own.  Then either magnetize some specific weapon options, or buy the specific models for the codex you want to field in a particular game.<br /> <br /> This way, you can own one marine force and run them as every power armour codex you choose, so long as you have appropriate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>WYSIWYG</span>.  This is easily done for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>, C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> and C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:41:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blacksails]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5719842a2ca26f9922fe6de695a66636.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553142/6066392.page"><b>Blacksails wrote:</b></a><br/>Well, the beauty of marines is that power armour is still power armour, and a bolter will always be a bolter.<br /> <br /> Pick whatever chapter you want or make your own.  Then either magnetize some specific weapon options, or buy the specific models for the codex you want to field in a particular game.<br /> <br /> This way, you can own one marine force and run them as every power armour codex you choose, so long as you have appropriate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>WYSIWYG</span>.  This is easily done for C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>, C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> and C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> This. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:44:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thatguyhsagun]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Ultramarines?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok guys - Thanks for all the help!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:52:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40Khunt3r]]></author>
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