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				<description><![CDATA[ Good Day Everyone,<br /> <br /> I'm new to the forums, but have been browsing them for ages, I have a upcoming tournament at a gaming convention in my area, and I am having trouble choosing a army list. Any help on which one you would go with, or adjustments/changes would be very much appreciated:<br /> <br /> List #1:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> <br /> Tervigon w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>,AG&lt;ST, 2 powers, warlord, biomancy     195pts<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> <br /> Doom of Malan'tai w/ mycetic spore   130pts<br /> Hive Gaurd x3    150pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> Tervigon x1 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>, 2 powers, biomancy    195pts<br /> Termagaunts x10        50pts<br /> Hormagaunts x20 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>       160pts<br /> <br /> Fast:<br /> <br /> Raveners x5 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(156);'>RC</span>      175pts<br /> Gargoyles x20 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>  140pts<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> <br /> Trygon w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>     210pts<br /> Biovore x2    90pts<br /> <br /> Total: 1500pts<br /> 64 Models<br /> 10 Kill Points<br /> <br /> <br /> List #2<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Swarmlord w/ Tyrant Gaurd(1), w/ attached Tyranid Prime w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(495);'>LW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, Regen    460pts<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> <br /> Doom of Malan'tai w/ mycetic spore       130pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> Tervigon x2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>, Catalyst, Onslaught, roll in biomancy   420pts<br /> Termaguants x10     50 pts<br /> Termagaunts x10     50 pts<br /> Hormagaunts x20   w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>   160pts<br /> <br /> Fast:<br /> <br /> Gargoyles x20 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>    140pts<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> <br /> Biovore x2    90pts<br /> <br /> Total: 1500<br /> 69 Models<br /> 11 Kill points<br /> <br /> <br /> Any help would be much appreciated <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">, I have roughly 8000 points of nids, so i have the ability to change a bit,<br /> <br /> I have the following:<br /> <br /> 1 Flying Tyrant<br /> 1 Swarmlord / Hive Tyrant <br /> 2 Tyrant Gaurd<br /> 3 Primes<br /> 2 Tervigons<br /> 1 Old style Hive tyrant<br /> <br /> 2 Zoanthropes (1 i use for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(419);'>DoM</span>)<br /> 3 Hive Gaurd<br /> 1 Deathleaper<br /> 1 Lictor<br /> <br /> 40 Termagaunts (12 more not made yet)<br /> 20 Devilgaunts<br /> 40 Hormagaunts<br /> 15 Ripper Swarms<br /> 10-12 Warriors<br /> 20-30 Genestealers w 2 broodlords<br /> 20 Gargoyles<br /> 12 Raveners<br /> 3 Trygons<br /> 1 Mawloc<br /> 6 Carnifexs<br /> 5-6 Biovores<br /> <br /> Thanks for any help <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> I'm also starting to finally paint all my nids, I have about 4000pts of Space wolves as well, about 75% painted, my nids are getting there but im just starting on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> right now, got 1 Trygon done and working on the 2 tervigons right now. <br /> <br /> &gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Oh I might mention that because im in a northern community there is a lack of large base of players, so the armies i have the possibility of facing are:<br /> <br /> Space Marines : Ultramarines, Deathwing, salamanders, black templar, Blood Angels<br /> Grey Knights<br /> Chaos Space Marines<br /> Chaos Demons<br /> Tau <br /> Necrons<br /> Tyranids<br /> Orks<br /> Imperial Gaurd<br /> Dark Elves<br /> <br /> I havent seen any Eldar players up here yet, though the Chaos Marines and Demons player might not be showing up.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Anything? Anyone? Could really use another persons thoughts <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is there nothing to say? these cant be perfect? I'm quite disapointed in the response of this community.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Personally, I'd adapt list two, using a Flyrant. They're too effective not to use, particularly if you're facing flyers, and they're far more aggressive, together with the gargoyles they should keep the enemy on the backfoot. <br /> <br /> Not sure about the Hormaguants though. Persomally I'd drop them, replace with ymgarls (use your genestealer models). ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553480/6073615.page"><b>Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:</b></a><br/>Personally, I'd adapt list two, using a Flyrant. They're too effective not to use, particularly if you're facing flyers, and they're far more aggressive, together with the gargoyles they should keep the enemy on the backfoot. <br /> <br /> Not sure about the Hormaguants though. Persomally I'd drop them, replace with ymgarls (use your genestealer models). </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> A 20 pack of Hormies is a solid choice. Especially if you keep <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> on them. I like to run one trevigon stock. Catalyst and Onslaught really are useful. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks to the few that actually took the time to point out a few things, still was looking for a bit more from everyone, as I really could use more help. <br /> <br /> But this community seems to be more Marine based then anything, guess I'll just move on and try another place.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553480/6077965.page"><b>EliteDucky wrote:</b></a><br/>Thanks to the few that actually took the time to point out a few things, still was looking for a bit more from everyone, as I really could use more help. <br /> <br /> But this community seems to be more Marine based then anything, guess I'll just move on and try another place.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not quite sure the attitude is necessary, chill out mate. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Normally I'm pretty good at catching Tyranid threads as that's my main army, sorry I missed this one.<br /> <br /> Your meta is very diverse, which makes this difficult.  Quick questions:<br /> -Did you mean Dark Eldar by chance?<br /> -Do your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> players tend towards any certain kind of list?<br /> <br /> If you didn't mean Dark Eldar, I'd Nidzilla it up.  No mass poison and no Space Wolves mean your monstrous creatures can actually do their job.<br /> <br /> I would start with your second list:<br /> -Drop the Tyranid Prime<br /> -Drop the upgrades on the Gargoyles<br /> -Drop the Hormagaunts (reluctantly I admit, I really like these guys)<br /> -Add in two Dakka Fexes<br /> <br /> <br /> Another option is to go the complete opposite route, but with the frequency of Tau and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> gunlines I don't know how confident I am in them anymore.  Start with your second list:<br /> -Drop the upgrades on the Gargoyles and Hormagaunts<br /> -Drop the Tyranid Prime<br /> -Drop as many hormagaunts as needed to take your 20 Devilgaunts in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(422);'>Spod</span><br /> <br /> <br /> The last option that I'd consider is because of your significant lack of killing tanks from any sort of range.  Take your second list again:<br /> -Drop the same things I've mentioned before (including the Hormagaunts)<br /> -Take a unit of 2x Hive Guard<br /> -Either find the points for a Trygon, or buy another Zoanthrope and take a squad of two of them and add another Biovore.<br /> <br /> <br /> I will admit that 1500 points isn't my best area (I tend towards 1850.)  Hopefully though, some of this helps.  If you don't like any of them and really want to take a list you created (or close to) then go with your second list and make a few of the changes I've mentioned.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bottom line you need to run 2 Flyrants the comps I've won are always using 2 . U need a bit of luck because you need iron arm or at least endurance to keep them alive . And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> are still going to hurt you a lot if you don't make a ton of saves but it's still the way to go. Check out my YouTube channel for Nid tips and hot lists. Good luck]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Dark elves is supposed to be Dark Eldar (he usually uses the typical spam lists, with a ton of transports filled with guys <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>) <br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> list is usually Tank heavy<br /> <br /> The only space wolf player here is ME!! <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> thank god!<br /> <br /> As for the Flyrants, well I only have 1 with wings and he is a older type, that has 2 sets of talons on him, not much on converting at the moment. <br /> <br /> Though I could possibly use 1 flyrant, <br /> <br /> List #2 Revised:<br /> <br /> 1500 Pts - Tyranids Roster<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: The Swarmlord (1#, 280 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 The Swarmlord</b>, 280 pts (Warlord)<br /> <br /> : Tyrant Guard (1#, 60 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tyrant Guard</b>, 60 pts<br /> <br /> Elite: The Doom of Malan'tai (2#, 130 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 The Doom of Malan'tai</b>, 130 pts<br /> . . . . <b>1 Mycetic Spore</b><br /> <br /> Elite: Hive Guard Brood (3#, 150 pts)<br /> . . <b>3 Hive Guard Brood</b>, 150 pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Tervigon (1#, 215 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tervigon</b>, 215 pts (Scything Talons; Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught)<br /> <br /> Troops: Tervigon (1#, 215 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tervigon</b>, 215 pts (Scything Talons; Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught)<br /> <br /> Troops: Termagant Brood (10#, 50 pts)<br /> . . <b>10 Termagant Brood</b>, 50 pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Termagant Brood (10#, 50 pts)<br /> . . <b>10 Termagant Brood</b>, 50 pts<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Biovore Brood (3#, 135 pts)<br /> . . <b>3 Biovore Brood</b>, 135 pts<br /> . . . . <b>0 Spore Mine Cluster</b><br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Trygon (1#, 210 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Trygon</b>, 210 pts (Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands)<br /> <br /> <br /> Total Roster Cost: 1495<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Or this one<br /> <br /> #3<br /> <br /> 1500 Pts - Tyranids Roster - <b>tourney list 2</b><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Tyranid Prime (1#, 115 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tyranid Prime</b>, 115 pts (Warlord; Lash Whip & Bonesword; Scything Talons; Regeneration; Toxin Sacs)<br /> <br /> Elite: The Doom of Malan'tai (2#, 130 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 The Doom of Malan'tai</b>, 130 pts<br /> . . . . <b>1 Mycetic Spore</b><br /> <br /> Elite: Hive Guard Brood (2#, 100 pts)<br /> . . <b>2 Hive Guard Brood</b>, 100 pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Termagant Brood (10#, 50 pts)<br /> . . <b>10 Termagant Brood</b>, 50 pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Termagant Brood (10#, 50 pts)<br /> . . <b>10 Termagant Brood</b>, 50 pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Tervigon (1#, 215 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tervigon</b>, 215 pts (Scything Talons; Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught)<br /> <br /> Troops: Tervigon (1#, 215 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Tervigon</b>, 215 pts (Scything Talons; Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Catalyst; Onslaught)<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: Gargoyle Brood (15#, 90 pts)<br /> . . <b>15 Gargoyle Brood</b>, 90 pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: Ravener Brood (6#, 210 pts)<br /> . . <b>6 Ravener Brood</b>, 210 pts (Rending Claws)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Biovore Brood (3#, 135 pts)<br /> . . <b>3 Biovore Brood</b>, 135 pts<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Mawloc (1#, 190 pts)<br /> . . <b>1 Mawloc</b>, 190 pts (Furious Charge; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs)<br /> <br /> <br /> Total Roster Cost: 1500<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ EliteDucky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/834bdae6e432365ddbc7ab1433af6123.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/553480/6078976.page"><b>aceface wrote:</b></a><br/>Bottom line you need to run 2 Flyrants the comps I've won are always using 2 . U need a bit of luck because you need iron arm or at least endurance to keep them alive . And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> are still going to hurt you a lot if you don't make a ton of saves but it's still the way to go. Check out my YouTube channel for Nid tips and hot lists. Good luck</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Man, idk, I used to be of the same mindset and have since shied away from dual Flyrants. <br /> <br /> You don't NEED 2 to be competitive. You don't even NEED 1. Yes your games against fliers will be more difficult, but I'd you aren't Tau you're already having issues dealing with them. <br /> <br /> I've seen plenty of lists be competitive with Swarmlord and a Tyranid prime placing the Prime in a unit of 30 gants (and making him warlord). 1 Flyrant is nice to have to apply pressure, but again not necessary. 260 points elsewhere is almost 3x 3 biovores. Or 5 Hive guard. <br /> <br /> The point I'm trying to make is by saying "Without unit X , your army can't be good" is ignorant.  <br /> <br /> Most people, and someone should back me up here, in tourney level play, when matched up against Nids, know what to expect. 2 Flyrants, Doom, 2 Tervigons and typically gargoyles. Pretty easy to plan a match against them. However, if you bring something that breaks that mold, your forcing your opponent to modify a predetermined strategy and play the game the way it was meant to be played (as a live strategy game).  <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>Imho</span> power gamers, who go into games with a static strategy can't effectively handle a curveball. Even tactical geniuses fall into habits of expectations and while much more able to adapt, are forced to play your game, not the game they intended to play before they saw your list. <br /> <br /> /rant<br /> <br /> Pick the units you like and want to use and use them. Just because the online community says their bad doesn't mean they will be (unless it's the pyrovore....)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dude right now everyone is tweeking on the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Codex, and second most of us only use the sight at certian times<br /> <br /> Here is my suggestion, your looking to maximize you chances at Iron Arm or the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span> one <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Swarmlord w/ Tyrant Gaurd(1) roll on Biomancy           320<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> <br /> Doom of Malan'tai w/ mycetic spore       130 Don't be afraid to use cataclysim.....take the wounds not a big deal<br /> Hive Guard 50<br /> Hive Guard 50<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> Tervigon x2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>, 3 Powers, roll in biomancy 205? <br /> Termaguants x10     50 pts<br /> Tervigon x2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(160);'>AG</span>, 3 powers, roll in biomancy 205?<br /> Termagaunts x10     50 pts<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> Trygon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span> 210<br /> Trygon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span> 210<br /> <br /> <br /> Total: so far 1480-1500  I dont have the codex on me can't remember what the 3rd power costs on Tervigon so may have 20 points for a upgrade<br /> <br /> This is a very mean list your friends will hate it<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Rune Stonegrinder]]></author>
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				<title>Tyranid Tournament list 1500pt</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What kind of missions is the event playing? How is it scoring?<br /> <br /> These are important things to know when building the list.<br /> <br /> I know you said you are limited to one flyrant, but you really really should try to convert up a 2nd one.<br /> <br /> In 1500 playing to win via missions this is what I would run.<br /> <br /> 2 dakka flyrants, (1 with hive comander)<br /> <br /> doom in pod<br /> <br /> terv with 3 powers and sacs<br /> <br /> terv with 2 powers and sacs<br /> <br /> 2 10 man guant squads<br /> <br /> 2 mawlocs.<br /> <br /> Its a list that plays to winning missions. It wont kill much but it can take a hell of a beating.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:20:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ krootman.]]></author>
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