<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Lysander?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Lysander? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080233.page GMT Lysander?
I think 5 TH/SS in a Crusader in a standard IF list should be good enough to accommodate him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080278.page GMT Lysander? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080292.page GMT Lysander? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6080753.page GMT Lysander?

A TFC is also probably a good idea?

Maybe some Razorbacks / Rhinos with tactical squads or some drop pods with tactical squads could be good too. Maybe sternguard if you really want to be fancy, but that cuts down on some troops and you most likely have plenty of killing potential in those devs and that TH/SS + Lysander monster squad haha.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6082644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6082644.page GMT Lysander? LR Crusader, 30 Tac Marines, 2 units of missile Devastators and a TFC. My list is 1750, but I am sure you can cut a few point off to take it down to 1500.

You really need the Land Raider though in order to get Lysander into combat with the enemy Warlord to get those extra points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6083173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6083173.page GMT Lysander? TFCs. Please comment and help me refine my concept. Both options are for 1500.

Option 1:
Lysander/Hammernators/Redeemer
4 Lasbacks with Flamer Combat Squads
3 Whirlwinds (or 2 Thunderfires)

Option 2:
Lysander/Shootynators
3 Full Rhino Tac Squads with Teleport Homers
Las Devs in a las ADL
2 Whirlwinds (or 1 Thunderfire)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6083536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6083536.page GMT Lysander? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6084418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6084418.page GMT Lysander?
 VardenV2 wrote:
I would replace the redeemers with crusaders. They benefit from the Imperial Fist rule of bolter drill (don't they?)

No they don't, as the hurricane bolters are already twin-linked. And the bolter drill doesn't affect vehicles anyway.


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6084494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6084494.page GMT Lysander?
 Crimson wrote:
 VardenV2 wrote:
I would replace the redeemers with crusaders. They benefit from the Imperial Fist rule of bolter drill (don't they?)

No they don't, as the hurricane bolters are already twin-linked. And the bolter drill doesn't affect vehicles anyway.




Where in the codex does it say Bolter Drill does not affect vehicles?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086482.page GMT Lysander? USR can use that chapter-specific rule (so none of the vehicles). The only exception is the IH chapter tactic that specifically includes all vehicles (for IWND).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086597.page GMT Lysander?
 phoenix darkus wrote:
Bolter drill is part of the chapter tactic. Only a model that has the chapter tactic USR can use that chapter-specific rule (so none of the vehicles). The only exception is the IH chapter tactic that specifically includes all vehicles (for IWND).


oh son of a biscuit... :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086725.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086725.page GMT Lysander? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6086843.page GMT Lysander?
 Crimson wrote:
 VardenV2 wrote:
I would replace the redeemers with crusaders. They benefit from the Imperial Fist rule of bolter drill (don't they?)

No they don't, as the hurricane bolters are already twin-linked. And the bolter drill doesn't affect vehicles anyway.




Ah, good point. I don't have a codex but I have taken a look at it. Wasn't sure if it applied or not. Well, regardless, I would prefer a crusader over a redeemer. Those bolters are going to be able to do a lot more damage as you drive up it seems. Of course, both are cool and you can totally do what you want. But there's usually a reason LRCs seem more popular.

- VardenV2]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6088033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/554051/6088033.page GMT