<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Ravenwing on foot"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Ravenwing on foot
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on foot assaulting a mountian hold of the death guard in search of a fallen.
Does anyone have any ideas of rules that could be used for this?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6099304.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6099304.page GMT Ravenwing on foot http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6099714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6099714.page GMT Ravenwing on foot
The squad consists of 3 Ravenwing Tactical Marines.

The squad may be joined by up to eight additional Ravenwing Tactical Marines.

In any Ravenwing Tactical Squad that consists of at least 5 models, one Ravenwing Tactical Marine may be armed with;
A Heavy Bolter: +5 points.
A Multi-Melta: +10 points.

All Ravenwing Tactical Marines have the Skilled Rider USR.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6100949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6100949.page GMT Ravenwing on foot

 Furyou Miko wrote:


All Ravenwing Tactical Marines have the Skilled Rider USR.


I don't think skilled rider has any effect on infantry models....

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6101230.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6101230.page GMT Ravenwing on foot tac units if on foot, Other then that a normal RW biker on foot would be no different then a standerd tac marine. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6101238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6101238.page GMT Ravenwing on foot tac marines as they stand above tacticals as they were selected to the ravenwing from company vet squads]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6102582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6102582.page GMT Ravenwing on foot
 namiel wrote:
Has anyone else thought about this as a unit? Now having ravenwing on foot for a normal game defeats the purpose and you can just use vets. BUT i like to play games like city fight and what not and the idea of ravenwing adapted for that sounds cool. In the latest dark angels book about the ravenwing it has them
Spoiler:
on foot assaulting a mountian hold of the death guard in search of a fallen.
Does anyone have any ideas of rules that could be used for this?


If I recall, weren't the Ravenwing still bike mounted, but there were some of the 5th company present on foot?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6102887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6102887.page GMT Ravenwing on foot
 HerbaciousT wrote:
 namiel wrote:
Has anyone else thought about this as a unit? Now having ravenwing on foot for a normal game defeats the purpose and you can just use vets. BUT i like to play games like city fight and what not and the idea of ravenwing adapted for that sounds cool. In the latest dark angels book about the ravenwing it has them
Spoiler:
on foot assaulting a mountian hold of the death guard in search of a fallen.
Does anyone have any ideas of rules that could be used for this?


If I recall, weren't the Ravenwing still bike mounted, but there were some of the 5th company present on foot?



Yes fifth company was present but

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5th company was to hold the perimeter and ravenwing assaulted the compound on foot with speeder and flier support. One squad of the fifth decided they wanted in the fight so they moved in and caught the traitor as he was fleeing and when the fallen was just about to kill the last member of the squad because he wiped them all out sammael, the Libby, and the chaplain showed up. The Libby shut down the fallen with his psychic hood and sammael took him out 1 on 1 giving him to the chaplain. The one surviving member of the squad of the 5th was then promoted to the deathwing.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103123.page GMT Re:Ravenwing on foot
Its simple. Its easy. Its logical. It requires no bizarre balancing or special permission from your opponents. Its universal.

I find a lot of people get all tripped on making custom rules for every slightly unique thing in the fluff, when really, using an appropriate unit and a straight tripping ballin paint job will do the job admirably.

So yeah, vets.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103152.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103152.page GMT Ravenwing on foot http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103201.page GMT Re:Ravenwing on foot
A bike for a character is 20pts.

An ordinary biker marine is 27pts (well, Ravenwing, you know what I mean).

A Black Knight is 42pts.

A normal tac marine is 14pts.

That puts a bike (plus a few rules) at about 13pts for a normal marine. Lets take a pseudo-average between a normal biker and a character bike and call it 15pts.

Now, lets subtract 15 from 42, to give us 27pts. Cool. Leave them with their normal rules and options minus hit and run and skilled rider.

Done.

Use vets for normal ravenwing if you want, or just normal tac marines painted black. However you want to justify it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103313.page GMT Ravenwing on foot http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103636.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6103636.page GMT Ravenwing on foot
 Very Superstitious wrote:
The Ravenwing got off there bikes for the final assault on the fortress


That was established in the very first post.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6104540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6104540.page GMT Re:Ravenwing on foot
Let them do it in the movement phase, and from then on just use tac models with the wargear ravenwing normally have (ie bolt pistols)

They will be sub-par compared to tac squads, as they aren't equipped to work as line infantry.

I would like to have a rule like this in normal games that would allow them to get to 2nd floor objectives.
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 Big Blind Bill wrote:
If you are making custom rules for ravenwing, why not just make up something for dismounting during a game?

Let them do it in the movement phase, and from then on just use tac models with the wargear ravenwing normally have (ie bolt pistols)

They will be sub-par compared to tac squads, as they aren't equipped to work as line infantry.

I would like to have a rule like this in normal games that would allow them to get to 2nd floor objectives.


Thats what i am saying. Using them for city fight is not really viable because of that, my buddy has a 6x4 that has no open ground and buildings are 3-8 floors tall. They would be equiped for infantry work. What more does a space marine need then a chainsword and bolt pistol? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6105337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6105337.page GMT Re:Ravenwing on foot
 namiel wrote:
 Big Blind Bill wrote:
If you are making custom rules for ravenwing, why not just make up something for dismounting during a game?

Let them do it in the movement phase, and from then on just use tac models with the wargear ravenwing normally have (ie bolt pistols)

They will be sub-par compared to tac squads, as they aren't equipped to work as line infantry.

I would like to have a rule like this in normal games that would allow them to get to 2nd floor objectives.


Thats what i am saying. Using them for city fight is not really viable because of that, my buddy has a 6x4 that has no open ground and buildings are 3-8 floors tall. They would be equiped for infantry work. What more does a space marine need then a chainsword and bolt pistol?

They are still great for moving fast through difficult terrain (albeit with a few crashes) and getting to objectives quickly. I'd keep them as they are in terms of points, stats and wargear, but allow them to dismount either at the start or end of the movement phase.
Also they should be able to remount their bikes if need be.

This to me seems fair, ultimately you are paying for an overcosted and under equipped infantry squad when they are dismounted, however it would ignore the stupidity of the emperors finest being unable to claim an objective due to a flight of stairs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6105522.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/555113/6105522.page GMT