gossipmeng wrote:
Well when I visited there wasn't a shortage of razors so I'd be inclined to say no.

 Ahtman wrote:
No.

Phew, that was easy.

 d-usa wrote:
Well, maybe GW is orvelian when it comes to spinning their news, and they are in the UK...

 Manchu wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Well, maybe GW is orvelian when it comes to spinning their news, and they are in the UK...

Has anyone else heard that Nottingham residents call the GW building the Reichstag? Because of the big Aquilla on the building.

I mean, if only they knew right?

 Manchu wrote:
Isn't it Cameron who wanted to ban porn to preserve Public Hygiene. Sis that get done?

 Manchu wrote:
Has anyone else heard that Nottingham residents call the GW building the Reichstag? Because of the big Aquilla on the building.

I mean, if only they knew right?

 Compel wrote:
I did like the line a read once which was a response to a question like that.

It was something along the lines of. "The fact that you're able to ask and discuss the question, by its very nature, proves we don't."

It seemed like a decent bit of food for thought for me.

 sebster wrote:
People talk a lot about security cameras. I kind of get the impression that people think all cameras are scary and a threat to liberty, just because they're just like 1984. But there's a big, big difference between a camera mounted in a public street with no ability to record conversations, and a camera installed in a television in your own home.

 sebster wrote:
Is there a difference between government installing the device and insisting you must have it on at all times, and a piece of consumer electronics that no-one in their right mind should buy?

Imposter101 wrote:Well the UK is doubleplusgood. You aren't being a thought criminal again are you now comrade Tyranidcrusher? That's ever so doubleplusbad.

/sarcasm.

No, I do not believe it's 1984. It's a stretch to make such a claim too.

 Leigen_Zero wrote:

Imposter101 wrote:Well the UK is doubleplusgood. You aren't being a thought criminal again are you now comrade Tyranidcrusher? That's ever so doubleplusbad.

/sarcasm.

No, I do not believe it's 1984. It's a stretch to make such a claim too.

Ugh, amateur...

The UK is ++good. You are commiting thoughtcrime comrade Tyranidcrusher? That is so ++ungood.


On another note, we are turning into a dystopian future, but I won't be an orwellian 1984, It'll be more like those late 80's movies where the goverment exists but is completely powerless, and the world is run by the mega-corporations...

 purplefood wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I did like the line a read once which was a response to a question like that.

It was something along the lines of. "The fact that you're able to ask and discuss the question, by its very nature, proves we don't."

It seemed like a decent bit of food for thought for me.

Seems fair...

 Compel wrote:
I did like the line a read once which was a response to a question like that.

It was something along the lines of. "The fact that you're able to ask and discuss the question, by its very nature, proves we don't."

It seemed like a decent bit of food for thought for me.

 Leigen_Zero wrote:



On another note, we are turning into a dystopian future, but I won't be an orwellian 1984, It'll be more like those late 80's movies where the goverment exists but is completely powerless, and the world is run by the mega-corporations...

welshhoppo wrote:
One of the biggest parts of 1984 was the reduction of the English Language into the term Newspeak. Where instead of using terms such as good, very good, excellent, incredible...... You had a much more limited choice of words, good, plusgood doubleplusgood, ungood so on so forth.


So as long as the English dictionary grows by adding words such as 'Twerk' (which is what northerners do on a weekday basis, 9-5) then we are not becoming an Orwellian society.

cadbren wrote:
Security cameras aren't a problem but arresting people for making comments on the internet is. How many people have been arrested now for saying politically incorrect things on twitter, public transport and so on?

 Sturmtruppen wrote:

Right to vote in a parliamentary multi-party democracy - But with increased chances of having your vote stolen, prior to the 90's it was almost unheard of for votes to be stolen, now its a recurring feature in elections.
Freedom of movement - Over inflation increases in public transport prices and fuel duty severely limit mobility.
Free press - Blair used more censorhip orders in 1997-8 than in the entire terms of Thatcher and Major combined. The press is not free, to some extent they never were but restrictions have greatly been tightened in recent decades.
Free economy - Increased division between rich and poor and a declining welfare state. Some of the current welfare reforms are draconian and sink families below the breadline.
Religious freedom - Some religions are interfered with more than others.
Right to trial and legal support - Legal aid is increasingly hard to get, still available for criminal trial, but less so for industrial disputes.
Existence of the Independent Police Complaints Commission - If you have a card to play, if you have the opportunity to say the police were being [noun]-ist you may well be heard, otherwise you get ignored.
Abolition of corporal punishment and the death sentence - Granted, though corporal punishment abolition has done us little good, and was on the backs of social welfare dogmas that dont work and breed tearaways in large numbers..

Just a number of things that still separate us from Oceania.

cadbren wrote:
Security cameras aren't a problem but arresting people for making comments on the internet is. How many people have been arrested now for saying politically incorrect things on twitter, public transport and so on?

While not 1984ish, what do you call the overly zealous paranoia about law suits that sees councils do things like rope off fruit trees and place warning signs about falling fruit.
Don't know if they still do it but Worcester City did this back in 2006. Plenty of more recent examples too, I just remember this as it was especially absurd given that the trees were pear trees - the city symbol.

 Leigen_Zero wrote:

Imposter101 wrote:Well the UK is doubleplusgood. You aren't being a thought criminal again are you now comrade Tyranidcrusher? That's ever so doubleplusbad.

/sarcasm.

No, I do not believe it's 1984. It's a stretch to make such a claim too.

Ugh, amateur...

The UK is ++good. You are commiting thoughtcrime comrade Tyranidcrusher? That is so ++ungood.


On another note, we are turning into a dystopian future, but I won't be an orwellian 1984, It'll be more like those late 80's movies where the goverment exists but is completely powerless, and the world is run by the mega-corporations...