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				<description><![CDATA[ My opponent is playing chaos space marines i know for sure he runs 2 hell drakes a bike unit 3 units of obliteraters and i think he said nurgle marines and a daemon prince<br /> <br /> So here is what i came up with<br /> Plan is to stick belial with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad so they have a 4++ <br /> The tactical squad is held in reserve for late game objectives, combat squad the termies putting both launchers on 1 squad, this gives me a target with prescience<br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>CMD</span> squad is riding in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with the librarian as a PLASMA Bomb squad <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I figured with all the shooting i have i should be able to ground his fliers and his helldrakes.<br /> <br /> I would like some honest C&C<br /> Should i change to codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>? Should i add a banner? Should i remove venerable for flakk missels on a tact squad?<br /> <br /> Dark angels- 1999+1<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>-520<br /> <br /> Azreal 215<br /> <br /> Terminator Librarian 115<br /> Lions Roar<br /> <br /> Command Squad 190<br /> x5 plasma guns<br /> Apothecary<br /> <br /> <br /> Elites-360<br /> Dreadnought 120<br /> x2 autocannon<br /> <br /> Dreadnought 120<br /> x2 autocannon<br />  <br /> Dreadnought 120<br /> x2 autocannon<br /> <br /> Troops-810<br /> Terminator squad(10) 535<br /> x9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>Th</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> x2 Missle Launcher<br /> <br /> Land Raider Crusaider 280<br /> Deathwing Vechile <br /> <br /> Tactical Squad 80<br /> Melta gun<br /> <br /> Heavy-309<br /> Vindicator 125<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Squad 184<br /> x4 missle launcher w/ flakk<br /> x1 extra marine<br /> <br /> 1999]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1999+1 Marines vs Chaos sunday throw down</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Anyone?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Oct 2013 00:04:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think it looks too bad as a counter to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>. Although I'm not a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> player. It does seem really light on troops though.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 2 he'll drakes and only 4 shots of sky fire a turn . Maybe grab an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You could drop the dreads and ally in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> for the hunter/stalker.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:01:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ korghan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1999+1 Marines vs Chaos sunday throw down</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Jpat1213 wrote:</cite>Anyone?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Basically my only models I have more termies but that's it]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:10:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hell drakes are less scary against erminators because they still get their 2+. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> should keep your guys safe if they show up. I'd recommend putting Azrael in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> maybe? That way that whole squad has <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> and a 4++. Maybe put the librarian with the devastators to give them prescience, and find points to add a PFG so they also have a 4++? Basically, those Hell Drakes aren't getting through your armor so easily <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I think you could definitely drop one of the dreads to get those extra points you need too. Then if you can proxy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> to stand behind that might not be a bad idea. Use the sergeant, librarian, or one extra dude to man the quad gun and take down flyers with ease. <br /> <br /> Could drop another dreadnought and get more tacticals on that squad or more terminators. <br /> <br /> Overall, I think you need a few more scoring bodies. Dreadnoughts are OK but if he is running 3 oblitereators squads they are going to get ... ahem... oblitereated <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> I would try and cut out at least one for that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> + PFG and stick the librarian in front. Or have him bounce around with the terminators.<br /> <br /> Another thought is using the banner of fortitude (cut the apothecary) on the command squad. It is damn expensive, but if you deep strike in a squad of terminators alongside them you will have a 4++ bubble <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> plasma death squad accompanied by 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> terminators... yeah... that's gross haha. And better yet, immune (mostly) to those Hell drakes. Send that squad after his demon prince, who won't want to be flying based on the flakk squad and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> idea. As soon as he crashes, plasma all over his face and charge with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> if necessary.<br /> <br /> - VardenV2]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ VardenV2]]></author>
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				<title>1999+1 Marines(DA) vs Chaos sunday throw down NEED ADVICE</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f67bdc95dd866bcb5f41f5e23dcbc6c0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556806/6135694.page"><b>VardenV2 wrote:</b></a><br/>Hell drakes are less scary against erminators because they still get their 2+. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> should keep your guys safe if they show up. I'd recommend putting Azrael in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> maybe? That way that whole squad has <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> and a 4++. Maybe put the librarian with the devastators to give them prescience, and find points to add a PFG so they also have a 4++? Basically, those Hell Drakes aren't getting through your armor so easily <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I think you could definitely drop one of the dreads to get those extra points you need too. Then if you can proxy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> to stand behind that might not be a bad idea. Use the sergeant, librarian, or one extra dude to man the quad gun and take down flyers with ease. <br /> <br /> Could drop another dreadnought and get more tacticals on that squad or more terminators. <br /> <br /> Overall, I think you need a few more scoring bodies. Dreadnoughts are OK but if he is running 3 oblitereators squads they are going to get ... ahem... oblitereated <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> I would try and cut out at least one for that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> + PFG and stick the librarian in front. Or have him bounce around with the terminators.<br /> <br /> Another thought is using the banner of fortitude (cut the apothecary) on the command squad. It is damn expensive, but if you deep strike in a squad of terminators alongside them you will have a 4++ bubble <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> plasma death squad accompanied by 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> terminators... yeah... that's gross haha. And better yet, immune (mostly) to those Hell drakes. Send that squad after his demon prince, who won't want to be flying based on the flakk squad and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> idea. As soon as he crashes, plasma all over his face and charge with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> if necessary.<br /> <br /> - VardenV2</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I planned on running azreal with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> to tank and a 4++ the plasma squads run with the Libby whom I could possibly free up 30 points for]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:15:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jpat1213]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really enjoy running the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons for anti hellchickens, but three is a bit excessive. Getting another 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad that you could stick on another objective might be better. Its a target for the space ducks, yes, but at the end of the day objectives win games. Just my thoughts.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ TheFishman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e56be00bff2c2ad541d3646c41b7cad8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/556806/6137382.page"><b>TheFishman wrote:</b></a><br/>I really enjoy running the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons for anti hellchickens, but three is a bit excessive. Getting another 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad that you could stick on another objective might be better. Its a target for the space ducks, yes, but at the end of the day objectives win games. Just my thoughts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well I have 5 more marines so I could pump it up too a 10 man but I don't have anymore heavy weapons... He does have cultist somewere so a flamer could come in handy. I ran 3 because of low model count but more Anti tank wepons is always a plus. my original list was 2 5 man termie squads but making the dreads vulnerable and not running the Command squad adding im another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with proxy weapons but I like this list better with the models i have maibly the plasma bomb with the Libby it just seems scary should I try and get an auspex?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:31:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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