raiden wrote:
Lots. Lots and lots of bolter weapons. And then even more bolter weapons. Lol. I like centurions with them honestly

 kronicpsycho wrote:
True, I couldn't decide between IF or Crimson's but they are pretty much the samething just different colour right? same rules and gak aye?

 kronicpsycho wrote:
Thanks for the help fellas. Bang for the buck who is better kantor or lysnader? I like both chapters tbh.

 phoenix darkus wrote:
Here's what I think is a fluffy 2k IF army that still will pack a punch in a game:

HEADQUARTERS:
Lysander
TROOPS:
10 tacticals, vet sgt with combi-flamer, grav-gun, HB, rhino
10 tacticals, vet sgt with combi-flamer, grav-gun, HB, rhino
ELITES:
10 terminators, 2xCMLs, 3xCFs
FAST-ATTACK:
Stormtalon, skyhammer
HEAVY-SUPPORT:
3 centurions, 3xMLs, 3xTLLCs, omniscope
10 devastators, vet srgt, 4xMLs with Flakks
TFC
FORTIFICATIONS:
ADL, quad-gun

2000pts on the dot; Lysander can join the termies and advance (tank wounds), 20 bolter shots with reroll 1s + 4MLs. They'll be supported by your 2 tactical squads, you can combat squad those to drop off the HBs mid-field while the rest of the squad keeps moving in the rhinos. The heavy-support section will be your true rockstar though: the centurions manning the quad-gun combined with the devastators (combat-squadded) will take out any vehicles or flyers that dares come out of cover (tank-hunter is great!) and the TFC will deal with enemy troops. It lacks in mobility but overall I think it would do pretty good. For a more assault oriented unit, cut the termies in half and add a 5-man squad of hammernators for the same point cost, you could deep-strike them with Lysander for a good disruption unit.

 kronicpsycho wrote:
I see.. my friend said the centurions are not very good. D: are they really that bad?

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:

 kronicpsycho wrote:
True, I couldn't decide between IF or Crimson's but they are pretty much the samething just different colour right? same rules and gak aye?

Crimson Fists can't take Lysander. They have Pedro Kantor, wich makes Sternguard scoring units.

Fun thing to take with IF and CF are Devestator Squads with Heavy Bolters and Missile Launchers due to their Chapter Tactic.

 Instinctual wrote:

Actually, I believe CF can take Lysander. The only constraint with the special characters is that they have to be part of a detachment that uses the same CT, "so a count's as" Lysande in the CF should be ok.

I've seen some back and forth on this on the forums, anyone know the consensus?

Zanderchief wrote:
They can take Pedro or Lysander. They are both Chapter Tactics IF.

Fluff wise you would just have to rename them or say they are working together.

Devastators look like a good choice (as well as Cents) since you get tank hunters. 4 Las-Cannon toting IF devs pretty much wreck any tanks' day.