TBone wrote:
Just downloaded the new supplement to the Tau, and from what I am reading, I am checking in to make sure this list is one, competitive, and two legal.

HQ
Commander Farsight

O'Vesa

Commander
- Missile Pod
- Missile Pod
- Drone Controller
- Target Lock
- Marker Drones (2)


TROOPS
XV8 Crisis Team (3)
- Shas'ui
- Fusion Blaster (3)
- Stimulant Injector (3)
- Target Relay (2)
- Talisman of Arthas Moloch (Shas'ui)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

Fire Warrior Team (12)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

Fire Warrior Team (12)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

FAST ATTACK
Pathfinder Team (5)
- Grav-inhibitor Drone
- Bonding Knife Ritual
- Ion Rifle (1)

Pathfinder Team (5)
- Grav-inhibitor Drone
- Bonding Knife Ritual
- Ion Rifle (1)

HEAVY
Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship
- Disruption Pod

Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship
- Disruption Pod

Now I understand that every unit that can, MUST, take the Bonding Knife Ritual. I also am slightly confused by the XV8 Crisis Command Team entry, but, in place of running that Team, you select from his 7 folks and they are IC's. Now, I read somewhere else about running Farsight, O'Vesa and the Commander together as a "group". Was that something legal to do? I have also read on the only one Signature System debate that hasn't been resolved as from what I am reading. Just curious...

 Zagman wrote:

 TBone wrote:
Just downloaded the new supplement to the Tau, and from what I am reading, I am checking in to make sure this list is one, competitive, and two legal.

HQ
Commander Farsight

Spoiler:

Required for Commander Team ie O'Vesa

O'Vesa

Spoiler:

Required for O'Vesa Star

Commander
- Missile Pod
- Missile Pod
- Drone Controller
- Target Lock
- Marker Drones (2)

Spoiler:

Pretty bad loadout considering the rest of your list. He needs to be a buff commander and taken from the Allied Codex:Tau Emprie
Give him Iridium Armor, Pen, MSS, C&CN

Otherwise, drop pathfinders for a Marker Drone Squad. Right now his Drone Controller has no use.

TROOPS
XV8 Crisis Team (3)
- Shas'ui
- Fusion Blaster (3)
- Stimulant Injector (3)
- Target Relay (2)
- Talisman of Arthas Moloch (Shas'ui)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

Spoiler:

What is the point of this squad? Why only one weapon each? Why Stim Injectors? Why Target Relays? Why put the Talisman Here? Better on a Riptide.

Fire Warrior Team (12)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

Spoiler:

Ok, second troup, though the required bonding knives are a tax.

Fire Warrior Team (12)
- Bonding Knife Ritual

Spoiler:

Another is a waste of points, better spend being part of an allied contingent for a Buff Commander

FAST ATTACK
Pathfinder Team (5)
- Grav-inhibitor Drone
- Bonding Knife Ritual
- Ion Rifle (1)

Spoiler:

Should be Marker Drones if you are keeping the Mark'O Commander

Pathfinder Team (5)
- Grav-inhibitor Drone
- Bonding Knife Ritual
- Ion Rifle (1)

Spoiler:

Again...

HEAVY
Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship
- Disruption Pod

Spoiler:

Great AA anda Skyfire ML

Sky Ray Missile Defense Gunship
- Disruption Pod

Spoiler:

Redundancy is good, unnecessary if you add a Riptide to the list for the O'Vesa Star.

Now I understand that every unit that can, MUST, take the Bonding Knife Ritual. I also am slightly confused by the XV8 Crisis Command Team entry, but, in place of running that Team, you select from his 7 folks and they are IC's. Now, I read somewhere else about running Farsight, O'Vesa and the Commander together as a "group". Was that something legal to do? I have also read on the only one Signature System debate that hasn't been resolved as from what I am reading. Just curious...

Ok, the reason to run O'Vesa and Farsight is to create a tough super unit.

It looks like this...

Farsight can join star, better no scatter DSing Fusion Suits unless you are concerned about slay the Warlord. If you are concerned about Assault, put with the Star to take Hit and Run tests on I5)

O'Vesa
Riptide, drones, HBC, Velocity Tracker, Target Lock,
Allied Buff Commander(Pen, C&CN, MSS, Vecotored Retro Thrusters)

This gives you a two riptide unit that is alwasy twinlinked with ignore cover and a choice of Tank Hunter or Monster Hunter. The HBC Riptides can shoot another target with. It puts out a considerable amount of firepower.


I'd recommend dropping a pathfinder squad and a Skyray to take an HBC Riptide so you can join the allied Commander(Buff Commander) and O'Vesa to it. Otherwise, at least turn one Pathfinder Squad into a Marker Drone squad to utilize the Drone Controller, or better yet run your Suits with dual Missile Pods and 2 marker drones each with Target Locks to Split fire effectively with BS5 Markerlights.

Either way, your list needs a lot of work.

As to signature systems, until the print book is out the Ibook version it is pretty clear that you can't have duplicates, ie ECPA on O'Vesa and another Riptide.

Hope that helps.

dot backslash wrote:
My preferred list to run with Enclaves is dual missile pod suits with marker drones (as already described in an earlier post) just equip the commander with the talisman and drone controller,2 marker drones, 2 mpods and a target lock an stick him with a crisis team that have dual mpods, target lock and some marker drones so they can provide ML where needed and take out something else.

Combo that with some more dual mpod equipped suits and maybe some more marker drones and concentrate your fire on units to smash them to pieces. A few hammerheads to take out big stuff and may a riptide or two with interceptor to scare drop pods an termies and to draw fire ( because riptides are huge bullet sponges! Lol)

I'm still learning playing with enclaves and target priority is a biggy when playing with low model count armies, so it's got a bit of a learning curve, but when one squad is putting out 12 S7 AP4 shots and then jump jetting away to hide again and you're doing that with 2 or 3 squads it's a damn fine shooting phase!


Or of course optimise to play the O'Vesa star and just scare people with a huge number of riptides!