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				<description><![CDATA[ We are starting a map based campaign starting next week which will allow for multiple armies on the map at a time.  I was going to go with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> army at first before I bust out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>dw</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>rw</span> as special characters come at a premium.  I was thinking of more a mobile force vs a static gunline.  Here's my first list, thoughts and ideas more then welcome but I'm not trying to be ultra competitive just not crap.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> Libby <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 jump pack<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Dread with twinlinked autocannons<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad with 1 plasma gun and rhino.  X4 of these<br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> 9 man Assault squad 2x flamers, combi flamer. (Libby here)<br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> Vindicator siege shield<br /> Predator autocannon and lascannons.  X2 of these<br /> <br /> 1498 points<br /> <br /> 7 tanks, a dread, and an assault squad.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would not recommend an assault squad <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span>. maybe take a command squad instead? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244733.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>I would not recommend an assault squad <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span>. maybe take a command squad instead? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I thought about a vet squad instead but I'm broke and out of rhinos and no drop pods.  I was avoiding anything on foot.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:10:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ do you have any more models at all? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244757.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>do you have any more models at all? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> gak load of ravenwing and deathwing but I'm not mixing.  I have devistators, scouts, veterans, another dread, and every character in the dex]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:17:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ honestly, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> work best as a mixwing. If you do go purist I have had/seen the most luck with Ravenwing. But if you are dead set on not mixing then... possibly consider dropping the ASM for a plasma cannon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> team w/ the libby and a PFG for a 4++ on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>?  prescience <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCs</span> can be nasty.  The upside is with all your deads and stuff being in there face they probably won't worry about your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> squad untill its too late <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> any spare points could go into combi weapons for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> Sgts. (maybe melta? you seem to be lacking in AV14 penning area) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:19:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244770.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>honestly, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> work best as a mixwing. If you do go purist I have had/seen the most luck with Ravenwing. But if you are dead set on not mixing then... possibly consider dropping the ASM for a plasma cannon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> team w/ the libby and a PFG for a 4++ on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>?  prescience <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCs</span> can be nasty.  The upside is with all your deads and stuff being in there face they probably won't worry about your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> squad untill its too late <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The reason I'm not mixing is because the campaign allows for several 1500 point armies moving around the map and I will have my 2nd and 3rd being <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>dw</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>rw</span>.  I thought about the devistators but I'd have to drop a pred or vindicator.  But I do think I don't have enough heavy hitting weapons mostly just bolter marines without the sod and it not being a gunline.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:24:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ if you drop the assualt squad, and downgrade the Tacs special weapons to a meltagun (for more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>) would you have 130 points? thats a 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad w/ 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> right there. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> Libby <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> Dread with twinlinked autocannons<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad with 1 plasma gun and rhino. X4 of these<br /> 6 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> with las cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> Vindicator siege shield <br /> Predator autocannon and lascannons.<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with 4 plasma cannons.<br /> <br /> 1499<br /> <br /> I split the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and have the 6 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads to sit back with the dread and pred.  Vindicator a.d 4 rhinos move toward to take objectives.  In kill points ill be murdered I think but not many games will be <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>kp</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:40:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hmm I still say you don't need 10 men in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad. 6 with a PFG libby is perfectly fine with the list you have. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:42:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244826.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>hmm I still say you don't need 10 men in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad. 6 with a PFG libby is perfectly fine with the list you have. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I like ten so I can split them.  But I see your point<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244818.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> Libby <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 with pfg<br /> <br /> Elites <br /> Dread with twinlinked autocannons<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad with and rhino. X4 of these 2 have a flamer and 2 have meltaguns<br /> 6 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> with las cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> Vindicator siege shield <br /> Predator autocannon and lascannons.<br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with 4 plasma cannons.<br /> <br /> 1485<br /> <br /> I split the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span> and have the 6 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads to sit back with the dread and pred.  Vindicator a.d 4 rhinos move toward to take objectives.  In kill points ill be murdered I think but not many games will be <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>kp</span>.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ splitting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad reduces the effectiveness of prescience by half. other than that its fine. Though I would love to see you force them to let you use bolter vet models <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> those cloaks are just to awesome <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:58:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244862.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>splitting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad reduces the effectiveness of prescience by half. other than that its fine. Though I would love to see you force them to let you use bolter vet models <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> those cloaks are just to awesome <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have enough of them......started my da with 40 robed marines.  They will allow robed marines to be vets or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marine or whatever the f I want <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> What if I drop the dread and 4 marines to field a kitted out vet squad?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hmm. I normally only say use vets with azzy. but depends. what would you build them for/with? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244928.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>hmm. I normally only say use vets with azzy. but depends. what would you build them for/with? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>Cc</span> for sure.  Power axe, power maul, maybe flamer.  But I have no way to get them in people's face.  Right now with the dread and cutting some marines I have 57 points to use.  I have no idea how to spend them.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ just give your pred a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244953.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>just give your pred a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That I can and will do but then I have 32 points.  Add options to vehicles?  I know what I will do]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would find 3 points for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 2 libby. or wait. give your libby the lions roar thingy. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> <br /> Libby <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 with pfg<br /> <br /> Elites <br /> Dread with twinlinked autocannons<br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, meltabombs and rhino. X4 of these 2have a flamer and 2 have meltaguns <br /> 5man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> with las cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> Vindicator siege shield, hunter killer(for weapon destroyed result protection) <br /> Predator lascannons all around. <br /> 7 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with 4 plasma cannons.<br /> <br /> 1498<br /> <br /> I can drop the hunter killer and some meltabombs for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 on my Libby but Idk if it will be necessary.  So does this look good for a final list?  Much better then the first?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Anyone else?  Opinions?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1500 point dark angels tac list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6244990.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> <br /> Libby <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 with pfg<br /> <br /> Elites <br /> Dread with twinlinked autocannons<br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 10 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, meltabombs and rhino. X4 of these 2have a flamer and 2 have meltaguns <br /> 5man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> with las cannon<br /> <br /> Heavy support <br /> Vindicator siege shield, hunter killer(for weapon destroyed result protection) <br /> Predator lascannons all around. <br /> 7 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with 4 plasma cannons.<br /> <br /> 1498<br /> <br /> I can drop the hunter killer and some meltabombs for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 on my Libby but Idk if it will be necessary.  So does this look good for a final list?  Much better then the first?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Anyone else?  Opinions?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Any opinions today?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i suggest dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannon on the pred turret. the autocannon is a much more well rounded gun. use those points to give the libby Mace of Redemption as a way to keep slay the warlord away from you enemy if they have mobile guys.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:36:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ IssacClarkeisBatman99]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6248112.page"><b>IssacClarkeisBatman99 wrote:</b></a><br/>i suggest dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannon on the pred turret. the autocannon is a much more well rounded gun. use those points to give the libby Mace of Redemption as a way to keep slay the warlord away from you enemy if they have mobile guys.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The lascannon gives me much better anti tank while the mace of redemption doesnt increase my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> value at all nor adds attacks or boosts iniative.  It will give me +3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> but i then loose the ability to inflict instant death.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> be better off using a force maul <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>, which is free]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:28:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dark Angel relics, while the background is epic, leave something to be desired in the game : ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:34:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/562881/6249968.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>Dark Angel relics, while the background is epic, leave something to be desired in the game : </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Mace of redemption is awesome BUT only worth it on chaplains and company masters]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:10:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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