<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. HF and Shuricannon or take a stock wraith knight with 2 added scatter lasers.
I can see where having two tanks to get at targets from different places is useful but with the number and strength of weapons so close, I'd like to hear other peoples' take on the issue.
Would you prefer to have 2 fire prisms in your list or 1 wraith knight?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6259488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6259488.page GMT Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. ap weapons your army brings to the table if you could post your list (as this is a army list thread :3) we could probably make a more informed decision ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6259569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6259569.page GMT Re:Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. As of now it is...

Farseer with Jetbike 115

Windrider squad (3) 51

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Fire Dragons (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

2x War Walker with 2x Bright Lance 140

Fire Prism with Shuri-cannon and Holofields 150

Fire Prism with Shuri-cannon and Holofields 150

And all that comes in at 1491 pts.

The option I am debating is dropping the 2 Fire Prisms and instead taking

Wraith Knight + 2x Scatter Lasers 280

and with the 29 pts left over giving the Farseer the Singing Spear and giving the Windrider squad a cannon which still leaves 14pts free and makes the list 1486.

Is either option more effective / efficient than the other?


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Also: I don't really see any point in the scatter lasers on the wraithknight if it can only fire 2 weapons per turn anyway?

Maybe take a stock wraithknight instead and mantle of the laughing god for your seer...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260461.page GMT Re:Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. Or ir could be a Wraith Knight and the pair of War Walkers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260525.page GMT Re:Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency.
That being said, Scatterlasers are absolutely pointless. A MC can only fire two weapons, how many situations can you think of where you would actually fire the Scatter Lasers? And certainly not for 40pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260580.page GMT Re:Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. SL's on the Knight it might be ok for the melee knight with shield and sword but remains to be seen. So dropping those.
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 Zakiriel wrote:
I see what you mean about the SL's on the Knight it might be ok for the melee knight with shield and sword but remains to be seen. So dropping those.


Melee Knight is terrible, it should be able to swap the Double Heavy Wraithcannons for two Scatter Lasers, the Sword, and Shield for free. Then, I'd consider using it. Paying more for the Shield/Sword is really truly pointless in its current incarnation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260693.page GMT Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency. FD and WW are pure anti-tank, which I think will be adequately covered by the Wraithknight.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260720.page GMT Re:Eldar heavy support effectiveness and efficiency.
Farseer with Jetbike, Singing Spear and Mantle of the Laughing God 160

Windrider squad (3) +1 Shuri-cannon 61

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Fire Dragons (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 255

2x War Walker with 2x Bright Lance 140

Wraith Knight 240

Making this list 1486


Oh and that is an interesting idea as well Perfect Organism. (Ponders it)

So with that idea in mind the list would compress out to...

Wraith Knight 240

2x Fire Prisms with Shuri-cannons and HF 300

3x DA (5) in Wave Serpent with twin-SL, Shuri-cannons and HF 630

Farseer with jetbike, Singing Spear and MotLG 160

Windrider squad (3) +1 Shuri-cannon 61

Bringing this version to 1391 and leaving 109 points to buy something else it might make good use of?
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So a revised version of this 1500 point list could be...

Farseer with Jetbike, Singing Spear and Mantle of the Laughing God 160

Windrider squad (3) +1 Shuri-cannon 61

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Dire Avengers (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 210

Fire Dragons (5) + Wave Serpent with twin Scatter Lasers, Shuri-cannon and Holofields 255

2x War Walker with 2x Bright Lance 140

Wraith Knight 240

Making this list 1486 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563666/6260943.page GMT