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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm a new 40 k  player, so naturally I went for space marines. Everyone else at my club seems to be more point efficient.  I know part of it is my bad tactics, but according to others I should get a better army.<br /> <br /> Please could someone post an effective 600 point  space marine army list, thanks in advance (It needs to have 1 ha and 2 troop choices, but just suggestions of good troops I will be grateful for)<br /> <br /> What is in my current army<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain w/ power sword<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 1 tact squad<br /> 1combat squad<br /> 1 scout squad w/ hellfire heavy bolter (hoping to get sniper rifles)<br /> <br /> Transport<br /> Rhino /w storm bolter<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Dreadnaught<br /> <br /> This was made using 5th ed points so please do point out any point changes<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Rory1432]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Have you looked at  the threads in this forum?<br /> <br /> There is no easy button on Marines, and they really are pretty effective. You want IF that means you want bolters. and possibly Pedro so you can get elite scoring bolters. Centurions seem to be a staple in IF lists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:07:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ barnowl]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Suggestions for 600 point imperial fists army, please?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, much appreciated <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> , but most of the threads are of 1000+ points armies<br /> Hopefully I'm getting some centurions soon]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ for 600 points I would do something like this:<br /> <br /> Librarian 65 <br /> -Force Sword, Biomancy<br /> <br /> Dreadnought 110<br /> -Multi Melta & Heavy Flamer<br /> <br /> (10) Tactical Squad 215<br /> -Plasmagun, Combi-Plasma, Missile Launcher, Rhino<br /> <br /> (5) Tactical Squad 130<br /> -Plasmagun, Combi-Plasma, Rhino<br /> <br /> (5) Scout Squad 80<br /> -Sniper Rifles, Camo Cloaks, Missile Launcher<br /> <br /> TOTAL: 600<br /> <br /> Captains are not a very efficient <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice, especially at low-point games. The Librarian can become a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> monster with powers from Biomancy, and gets his Force Sword for free. <br /> <br /> The 10-man Tactical Squad should split up using Combat Squads, leaving 4 Marines and the Missile Launcher behind. You now have 2 forward scoring units (5-man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads with Plasma in Rhinos) and 2 rear scoring units (5 scouts with a Missile and 5 Marines with a Missile). The Librarian should join on of the forward Tactical Squads in the Rhino. <br /> <br /> Most points inefficiencies are caused by poor wargear and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices. The list I have posted is not the absolute best 600 point list, but it is quite a bit more efficient than your current list. I hope this helps!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Dec 2013 21:21:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/566909/6317817.page"><b>Rory1432 wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm a new 40 k  player, so naturally I went for space marines. Everyone else at my club seems to be more point efficient.  I know part of it is my bad tactics, but according to others I should get a better army.<br /> <br /> Please could someone post an effective 600 point  space marine army list, thanks in advance (It needs to have 1 ha and 2 troop choices, but just suggestions of good troops I will be grateful for)<br /> <br /> What is in my current army<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain w/ power sword<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 1 tact squad<br /> 1combat squad<br /> 1 scout squad w/ hellfire heavy bolter (hoping to get sniper rifles)<br /> <br /> Transport<br /> Rhino /w storm bolter<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Dreadnaught<br /> <br /> This was made using 5th ed points so please do point out any point changes<br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Now we have some were to start   <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Biggest issue you are going to have is popping armor. Only the dread and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>. Missile  can pen. armor, making the dread a prioirty target to go away. After that enemy transports are going to keep the one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad from moving or be ignored the rest of the game. I would consider swapping the dread, captain and combat squad for Pedro, melta sternguard and a drop pod. Put <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span> eMelta were you needed it turn one, got a squad of scoring bolters already in the back field for line breaker, and Kantor is a solid <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> character.<br /> <br /> Sniper scouts are good, but with IF <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(436);'>CT</span> I think staying with the bolters and hvy bolter make a bit more sense at 600pts.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:03:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ barnowl]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks that's a lot of help! The acronyms confused me, but the advise is great!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Dec 2013 23:00:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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