<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive BA arent ultra competitive. I wanted to see how people would react to a list like this.

HQ:

Librarian (TDA, Combi-Melta) - 135

Elites:

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Troops:

Assault Marines (Flamer, Razorback w/ TL HB) - 125

Assault Marines (Razorback w/ TL HB) - 120

Assault Marines (Razorback w/ TL HB) - 120

This comes out to 1850 on the dot. I'm disregarding any Heldrakes so I can shove as many Terminators in the list I can.

What do you guys think? A breath of fresh air to throw into the current competitive meta?

Thanks,

Lucarikx
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333529.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive FnP on the terms is GREAT, also you get +1 str on charges with this!.


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your BA, take advantage of the few good things we have lol. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333544.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333544.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive FnP in there some how, Saguinary Priests in Terminator Armor? There are ways...

There is some 'synergy' in swapping half(ish) of a Termie Sqd for 1 Sanguinary priest for each Assault Squad: The Termies are already purty bada** so why not give the FnP to the Power Armor guys? Then the Rzr Bks are at full capacity, but that's just from my own OCD mostly! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333546.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DS sang priest IIRC


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wait, gotta give em jumppacks
but eh, just don't use them! lol.


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hm sang priest in terminator is better bet. lol. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333618.page GMT Re:Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333875.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DS honor guard w/ chapter banner. the banner makes all your units SOOOO much stronger. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333906.page GMT Re:Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333908.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive

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also, consider going 7TH/SS 3 LC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6333973.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive
But I get where you are going with it. BA can't win the boys over toys lists against the newer armies, so you might as well try taking lots of toys.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6334048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6334048.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive IIRC, the FAQ lets you take 2 specials at 5? I never run my ASM at 5 so im a bit fuzzy) and lets you deny a whole turn of shooting! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6334613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6334613.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive
 raiden wrote:
also, drop the razorbacks, and go drop pods/ saves you points (can take drop pods for free if you drop your jumppacks) to give them 2 special weapons (IIRC, the FAQ lets you take 2 specials at 5? I never run my ASM at 5 so im a bit fuzzy) and lets you deny a whole turn of shooting!

The Razorbacks are for objective grabbing. Dropping in his only scoring units is pretty much conceding the game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336542.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336662.page GMT Re:Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive
Lucarikx]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336830.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive FNP roll. And Hammernators dont need Furious Charge so the points for the priest is not as efficient as with some other units. Corbulo is interesting in this setup as you are foot slogging and you can use him a wound soaker but I am not sure where you would find the points.

 raiden wrote:
pods can be placed on obj. with potential for 1-several turns of denying shooting. (descent of angels lets you reroll any reserve roll,) and can be placed for obj. grabbing. razorbacks won't last 5 turns.

Placing a pod on an objective does nothing for you. And how does the pod deny shooting? You completely hide the razorbacks or even put them in reserve.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336889.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DoA works with any unit that has that special rule. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336916.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DoA. Jump Packs confer most of our units the DoA rule. They do not have the rule inherently.

And while he could reserve the termies, OP never mentioned if that was the plan. Maybe he will chime in. 2D6 scattering Terminators is a risky proposition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6336932.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DE in fast skimmers, suited tau, white scars, other BA with fast vehicles/shooty jps, scythe spam or IG armoured company? You will never land a hammer against these lists! They will dance away at every chance they get and focus their firepower on your scoring. It will be like a british square who have run out of ammunition trying to hunt down a squadron of french horse. Or a block of pikemen trying to engage the formations of the mongols. I like it, but their are so many common lists out there that you just wont touch... literally!


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Unless of course you are playing on a small board or deepstrike your units scattered around the board (combat squaded) so the opponents units have to be in range of at least something. But then you will have scattered your forces so a mobile opponent can concentrate on a unit at a time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6337163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6337163.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive reserve rolls if arriving by Deep Strike. Also, due to the
precision of their descent, it scatter D6" less

straight from the BA dex.

if a model has the DoA special rule taking jumppacks off won't take it away.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6340181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6340181.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive FAQ for your own codex:

Page 23 – Descent of Angels.
Change this entry to read “A Blood Angels unit composed
entirely of models with this special rule can re-roll failed
reserve rolls if arriving by Deep Strike using its Jump Packs.
Also, due to the precision of their descent, the unit scatters D6" rather than 2D6".”

Q: If a unit with the Descent of Angels rule Deep Strikes via a transport, teleport or means other than by jump pack, can the Descent of Angels rule still be used? (p23)
A: No.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6340524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6340524.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive FAQ printed out but I haven't seen this


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Also the fisrt time you said this you told me to look in the dex not the FAQ ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6341034.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6341034.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive DoA only applies to units with Jump Packs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6347312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6347312.page GMT Blood Angels 1850 - Bloodwing (Deathwing wanna-be!) - Competitive
 raiden wrote:
+1 attack to all units in 12". its a force multiplier!


Unfortunately, no.

"All friendly units within 12" of the banner bearer re-roll failed Morale and Pinning Tests.
In addition, all models in the same unit as the Chapter Banner have +1 Attack whilst the banner bearer is alive"
- Codex: BA, page 52

About the list, what everyone else has said.
Drop one Termie squad and get FnP everywhere. Even more valuable with those 40 pt models.
Your Assault Marines seem fine, keep the Razorbacks. But seriously, if you can get the points take flamers to the other squads as well.
Only 5 points and effective. Melta bombs on the Sgt's have never hurted me either.
And Heavy Bolter is good all around, but TLPlas/Las weapon is great. Your AT could use some backup.
Or if you're tight on points, take HF. Always worth it for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6347811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567798/6347811.page GMT