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Hey guys, just playing around with lists again, since BA arent ultra competitive. I wanted to see how people would react to a list like this.

HQ:

Librarian (TDA, Combi-Melta) - 135

Elites:

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Assault Terminators (10 man, TH/SS) - 450

Troops:

Assault Marines (Flamer, Razorback w/ TL HB) - 125

Assault Marines (Razorback w/ TL HB) - 120

Assault Marines (Razorback w/ TL HB) - 120

This comes out to 1850 on the dot. I'm disregarding any Heldrakes so I can shove as many Terminators in the list I can.

What do you guys think? A breath of fresh air to throw into the current competitive meta?

Thanks,

Lucarikx

honesty? Drop a term squad. grab corbulo and 2 priests w/ powerfists. the FnP on the terms is GREAT, also you get +1 str on charges with this!.


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your BA, take advantage of the few good things we have lol.

I like it, Fast tanks and all... Might add or switch one or more transports for a d-pod with a Becon, or maybe you try to get some Homers some how? Your ability to arrive en mas at the target would seem critical to me? ...raiden has a valid suggestion for sure! Try to get FnP in there some how, Saguinary Priests in Terminator Armor? There are ways...

There is some 'synergy' in swapping half(ish) of a Termie Sqd for 1 Sanguinary priest for each Assault Squad: The Termies are already purty bada** so why not give the FnP to the Power Armor guys? Then the Rzr Bks are at full capacity, but that's just from my own OCD mostly!

you can DS sang priest IIRC


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wait, gotta give em jumppacks
but eh, just don't use them! lol.


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hm sang priest in terminator is better bet. lol.

i agree with raiden, drop sum termies, add sum sang guard in termie armor and its decent

use the points from dropping the terminators (getting 2 priests) to grab some DS honor guard w/ chapter banner. the banner makes all your units SOOOO much stronger.

what does the banner even do?

+1 attack to all units in 12". its a force multiplier!


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also, consider going 7TH/SS 3 LC

The biggest issue is that it is going to take a few turns for you to even get near combat. Your opponent will be unscathed for almost 2 whole turns.

But I get where you are going with it. BA can't win the boys over toys lists against the newer armies, so you might as well try taking lots of toys.

also, drop the razorbacks, and go drop pods/ saves you points (can take drop pods for free if you drop your jumppacks) to give them 2 special weapons (IIRC, the FAQ lets you take 2 specials at 5? I never run my ASM at 5 so im a bit fuzzy) and lets you deny a whole turn of shooting!

 raiden wrote:
also, drop the razorbacks, and go drop pods/ saves you points (can take drop pods for free if you drop your jumppacks) to give them 2 special weapons (IIRC, the FAQ lets you take 2 specials at 5? I never run my ASM at 5 so im a bit fuzzy) and lets you deny a whole turn of shooting!

The Razorbacks are for objective grabbing. Dropping in his only scoring units is pretty much conceding the game.

pods can be placed on obj. with potential for 1-several turns of denying shooting. (descent of angels lets you reroll any reserve roll,) and can be placed for obj. grabbing. razorbacks won't last 5 turns.

Descent of Angels only works if the unit has all Jump Packs, so I won't get the re-roll. I'm not to sure about using the Pods. I would be basically giving my troops away. I might try the Sang. Priests, but I feel a little more comfortable with 10 Hammernators instead of Corbulo and 2 Priests.

Lucarikx

In my experience, an extra terminator is more survivable than giving them a 5+ FNP roll. And Hammernators dont need Furious Charge so the points for the priest is not as efficient as with some other units. Corbulo is interesting in this setup as you are foot slogging and you can use him a wound soaker but I am not sure where you would find the points.

 raiden wrote:
pods can be placed on obj. with potential for 1-several turns of denying shooting. (descent of angels lets you reroll any reserve roll,) and can be placed for obj. grabbing. razorbacks won't last 5 turns.

Placing a pod on an objective does nothing for you. And how does the pod deny shooting? You completely hide the razorbacks or even put them in reserve.

You can't put the razor backs in reserve if you reserve the terminators. You can however reserve the pods. DoA works with any unit that has that special rule.

Raiden, look closely at the codex and see how very few units have DoA. Jump Packs confer most of our units the DoA rule. They do not have the rule inherently.

And while he could reserve the termies, OP never mentioned if that was the plan. Maybe he will chime in. 2D6 scattering Terminators is a risky proposition.

What happens if playing serp spam/spiders/bikes, DE in fast skimmers, suited tau, white scars, other BA with fast vehicles/shooty jps, scythe spam or IG armoured company? You will never land a hammer against these lists! They will dance away at every chance they get and focus their firepower on your scoring. It will be like a british square who have run out of ammunition trying to hunt down a squadron of french horse. Or a block of pikemen trying to engage the formations of the mongols. I like it, but their are so many common lists out there that you just wont touch... literally!


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Unless of course you are playing on a small board or deepstrike your units scattered around the board (combat squaded) so the opponents units have to be in range of at least something. But then you will have scattered your forces so a mobile opponent can concentrate on a unit at a time.

A Blood Angels unit with this specia l rule can re-roll failed
reserve rolls if arriving by Deep Strike. Also, due to the
precision of their descent, it scatter D6" less

straight from the BA dex.

if a model has the DoA special rule taking jumppacks off won't take it away.

Once again you need to read the FAQ for your own codex:

Page 23 – Descent of Angels.
Change this entry to read “A Blood Angels unit composed
entirely of models with this special rule can re-roll failed
reserve rolls if arriving by Deep Strike using its Jump Packs.
Also, due to the precision of their descent, the unit scatters D6" rather than 2D6".”

Q: If a unit with the Descent of Angels rule Deep Strikes via a transport, teleport or means other than by jump pack, can the Descent of Angels rule still be used? (p23)
A: No.

So. You saying units in pods cannot reroll reserve rolls? Or is that what it is saying. I have the FAQ printed out but I haven't seen this


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Also the fisrt time you said this you told me to look in the dex not the FAQ

DoA only applies to units with Jump Packs.

 raiden wrote:
+1 attack to all units in 12". its a force multiplier!

Unfortunately, no.

"All friendly units within 12" of the banner bearer re-roll failed Morale and Pinning Tests.
In addition, all models in the same unit as the Chapter Banner have +1 Attack whilst the banner bearer is alive"
- Codex: BA, page 52

About the list, what everyone else has said.
Drop one Termie squad and get FnP everywhere. Even more valuable with those 40 pt models.
Your Assault Marines seem fine, keep the Razorbacks. But seriously, if you can get the points take flamers to the other squads as well.
Only 5 points and effective. Melta bombs on the Sgt's have never hurted me either.
And Heavy Bolter is good all around, but TLPlas/Las weapon is great. Your AT could use some backup.
Or if you're tight on points, take HF. Always worth it for me.