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				<description><![CDATA[ I am seriously considering making a dwarf army with just the avatars of war models.  Cheaper per unit (not by a ton) and so much better looking (in my opinion) I see no downside besides never being able to play in a games workshop or official tourney, which I don't anyway!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 05:10:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Is it just me, or is avatars of war models better than GW AND cheaper?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 1.) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> will updated Dwarfs in February or March.<br /> 2.) The owner of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(674);'>AoW</span> has been sculpting Dwarfs for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> several years ago.<br /> 3.) Downside: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(674);'>AoW</span> has notorious delivery problems. Most boxes are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(277);'>OOP</span> most of the time. If you find a retailer with stock, no problem. But buying direct can be a PITA. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(674);'>AoW</span> is currently working through the fulfillment of an indiegogo campaign on Dwarfs, but rather slowly.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 10:01:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't know if they are to your taste, but mantic also do dwarves.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/dwarfs.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/dwarfs.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 10:05:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Is it just me, or is avatars of war models better than GW AND cheaper?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>  dwarfs do have the excuse of being old.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 10:53:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sing your life]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Is it just me, or is avatars of war models better than GW AND cheaper?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c22d80e0ee0167500285a7887ef53e41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6344530.page"><b>sing your life wrote:</b></a><br/>Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>  dwarfs do have the excuse of being old.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Care to explain <br /> <a href="https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gws360/2013/11+-+November/99070212002_BlackArkFleetmaster360/03.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gws360/2013/11+-+November/99070212002_BlackArkFleetmaster360/03.jpg</a><br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3430040a_99120101106_SMCenturions01_873x627.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3430040a_99120101106_SMCenturions01_873x627.jpg</a><br /> or<br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3610101a_99071463001_LegolasGreenleafWithGiftIcon01_873x627.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3610101a_99071463001_LegolasGreenleafWithGiftIcon01_873x627.jpg</a>  ?<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> Seriously though Orock, Avatars of War are both better and cheaper, and that is not uncommon either.<br /> As Silver said Mantic dwarves are pretty good too, and a hell of a lot cheaper (I actually have a command group for them with a general or two, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> and a Slayer charactrer that I just picked up to paint and I was pleasantly surprised by how great they are, I was expecting a lot less for a set that cost less than 2/3rds of a single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> finecast model).<br /> Then there is Reaper for heroes, though their stuff is mostly for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPGs</span> so you might find the scale a little off (since it isn't 'heroic scale' and all the arms and legs are actually in the right proportions compared to the body).<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:29:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jonolikespie]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Is it just me, or is avatars of war models better than GW AND cheaper?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a99529f9d9fdef06eca5f2ea8a980887.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6344598.page"><b>jonolikespie wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c22d80e0ee0167500285a7887ef53e41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6344530.page"><b>sing your life wrote:</b></a><br/>Actually the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>  dwarfs do have the excuse of being old.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Care to explain <br /> <a href="https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gws360/2013/11+-+November/99070212002_BlackArkFleetmaster360/03.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gws360/2013/11+-+November/99070212002_BlackArkFleetmaster360/03.jpg</a><br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3430040a_99120101106_SMCenturions01_873x627.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3430040a_99120101106_SMCenturions01_873x627.jpg</a><br /> or<br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3610101a_99071463001_LegolasGreenleafWithGiftIcon01_873x627.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3610101a_99071463001_LegolasGreenleafWithGiftIcon01_873x627.jpg</a>  ?<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> My explanation would be that you don't like good models <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 16:54:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sing your life]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There's a difference between bad due to tech, and bad due to aesthetics. <br /> <br /> The current dwarfs don't look great because they are still being made with outdated molds.<br /> <br /> The centurion don't look great (to some, including me), because they were designed that way intentionally. That said, some may like the way they look. I will admit they don't look as dumb with the helmets on.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> were never any good with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(86);'>LoTR</span> models. I think it's because of the scale.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:58:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CthuluIsSpy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6c5bf3950e5bdacfd6e45daa99eb592a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6350105.page"><b>CthuluIsSpy wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> The centurion don't look great (to some, including me), because they were designed that way intentionally. That said, some may like the way they look. I will admit they don't look as dumb with the helmets on.<br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'd say the Centurions are mainly bad because the business department told the designers to have a "space marine in power armour in power armour" [a decision that could be made in 1985 or 2025]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:36:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sing your life]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c22d80e0ee0167500285a7887ef53e41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6350516.page"><b>sing your life wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6c5bf3950e5bdacfd6e45daa99eb592a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568344/6350105.page"><b>CthuluIsSpy wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> The centurion don't look great (to some, including me), because they were designed that way intentionally. That said, some may like the way they look. I will admit they don't look as dumb with the helmets on.<br /> <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'd say the Centurions are mainly bad because the business department told the designers to have a "space marine in power armour in power armour" [a decision that could be made in 1985 or 2025]</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Heh, fair point. Still, it's not as if they hadn't done it before...<br /> <br /> <img src="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1710175a_99120107003_DreadKnight01_445x319.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> I dare say they've improved their style <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:39:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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