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				<description><![CDATA[ Embracing the new rules my 2k <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>ig</span><br /> <br /> Lord of war<br /> Shadowsword 2x lascannon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>hb</span> sponsons with extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>hb</span><br /> <br /> Imperial strongpoint fortification network <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>Adl</span> with quad<br /> Bastion with quadgun<br /> Honored imperium <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>Ccs</span></span> Vox 3x plasma powerfist meltabombs<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>Pcs</span> autocannon Vox plasmagun<br /> Infantry squad autocannon plasma 1vox (4 squads 40men) <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>Pcs</span> autocannon Vox plasma<br /> Infantry squad autocannon plasma 1 vox(4 squads 40 men) <br /> <br /> Manticore<br /> Manticore <br /> <br /> Horde control =mantocores<br /> Flyer control = 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>Adl</span><br /> Lord of war control / fortification control =shadowsword<br /> 2+ rerollable save control = Shadowsword <br /> <br /> <br /> Thoughts? <br /> This is a single force org list <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Attacking objectives might be rough as I need my statue to stay stubborn with my blobs. <br /> Manticore s hide behind Bastion and Shadowsword <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:22:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Replace a Lord Commissar with a Command Squad. Especially if you're taking Voxes...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:26:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your right I always forget the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>Pcs</span> doesn't have great orders. I'll I have to work that in ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:29:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> with a standard for 65 points vs the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>'s 70. This way you get orders and rerollable morale for 5 pts cheaper]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:30:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Stubborn can really help tarpit and not get overrun. So I like a commissar of sorts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:39:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Curious if you have found people to let you play this list.  Everyone in my area gave both codex thumbs down.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 01:57:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My group embraces the changes. <br /> My group always plays cheese<br /> Lists with 4 riptides<br /> Flying circus<br /> 3 land raiders<br /> 7 drop pods <br /> 2 plus re roll able screamerstar<br /> <br /> So <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> D is not ridiculously overpowered when you play lists like theirs constantly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> The way I see it, there's a counter to everything. It's just, do you have that counter in your list? <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I told my buddy I was bringing a superheavy to our next game: his response was "I already killed one super heavy this week"  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:35:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I bet its fun to see the screamerstars face when his unit is removed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:49:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/85e9a8311463e097b78c0dd5fb393e1a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569111/6358990.page"><b>Orock wrote:</b></a><br/>Curious if you have found people to let you play this list.  Everyone in my area gave both codex thumbs down.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not going off track but aside from escalation I dont see what the problem is with stronhold?  As long as someone doesnt use the 2 buildings that has strength D what is the problem with that book?<br /> <br /> I would also say the list looks pretty solid as you have most areas covered.  <br /> <br /> I would drop 1 lord commissar and get an inquisitor to prescience the shadow sword so its D cannon is more accurate.  <br /> <br /> Although to be honest if your opponent brings the eldar titan its most likely game over for you because basically 1 of its guns firing 2 D strength weapons will kill you shadow sword allowing the other weapon to start killing other stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:00:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That titan is 900pts <br /> I hope I get first shot at it with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> D <br /> Or hope he rolls poorly<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> That titan is a beast. Without making this list crazy and putting a fortification with another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> D shot (at 500+ points) and sacrificing all my core troops to do so I will just cry against it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:16:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the titans are a bad idea, it just promotes cheesy lists and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> models, 1500pts of eldar is a titan mantle seer and some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> in serpents, cheese, cheese, and yet more cheese.<br /> <br /> Beware this list is dangerus to people with lactose intolerance.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Dec 2013 22:51:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yea, the more I think about the eldar titan the more my mind hurts trying to make a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> list to include an answer to it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:04:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Ig 2k stronghold + Escalation </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you run those infantry to close to your shadow sword you better hope it doesn't blow up or it's explosion will kill all those guardsmen. I learned that I. My last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> game the hard way. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Dec 2013 18:47:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Ig 2k stronghold + Escalation </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9a5145a9dff4c1ac741028d7d6a53555.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569111/6363430.page"><b>tankboy145 wrote:</b></a><br/>If you run those infantry to close to your shadow sword you better hope it doesn't blow up or it's explosion will kill all those guardsmen. I learned that I. My last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> game the hard way. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> I'll <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(186);'>Def</span> keep that in mind ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 01:40:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Awestrn]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Beware!!!! My friend just played an escalation game (like yesterday) and he used this same list (I wanted to see how it would do) he get murdered by a Thunder hawk gunship which was just gay (no offense to gays). <br /> <br /> So squeeze as many vendettas in as you can to stop thunder hawks from killing you!!!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 02:21:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hrm. I'll have to keep this in mind. I haven't played one yet but with 2 quads and a lot of twin linked autocannons how did he fail so hard? It's only av12. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Dec 2013 23:22:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hes a below average dice roller (sorry but its true), and the fact even with twin linked auto cannons its 6s to hit and 6s to pen.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Dec 2013 23:30:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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