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HQ 190
Prime w/ AG, regen, lash whip and sword

Troop 1095
3 x 5 warriors AG, FH: 2 w/ rending claws and devourer, 2 stock, 2 x VC, 1 x BS
1 x 5 warriors AG, FH: 2 w/ whip and sword, 2 stock, 1 w/ VC
1 x 5 warriors AG, FH: 4 stock, 1 w/ BS

Elite 265
2 x 2 hive guard
1 vemonthrope

Heavy 300
2 x canifex with ST and Crushing claws and AG

So the plan would be to have everything fleet up the board taking shots as needed from the warriors. I am almost no existent on anti-tank and anti-air so that is a problem. However I have no synapse problems at all as I can cover the board in synapse. Not sure how much the single venom really helps but I put it in as its cheap. I would like to make this at least somewhat competitive (I know warriors are not competitive) so all comments are appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6445830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6445830.page GMT Re:New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
Round two
HQ 230
Flyrant w/ Double devourer

Troop 390
3 x 4 warriors 3 stock 1 w/ BS

Elite 265
2 x 2 hive guard

FA 400
2 x 20 gargoyles w/ AG and TS

Heavy 600
2 x canifex with ST and Crushing claws and AG
2 x dakkafexes

So this adds a lot more bodies and more shooting as well. Flyrant and gargoyles will go up quickly to tie up units and then warriors, hive guard and canifexes follow up as needed. What does the dakka think tank conclude about this list?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448674.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448674.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448733.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
What about changing the fexes and hive guard around to allow for more points in troops? Say drop the crushing claw fexes and 1 unit of hive guard?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448906.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6448906.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different CC upgrades for them get your CC power elsewhere.

They dovetail well with MC spam. Your opponent has two choice send his strength 8+ at your warriors knowing he can ID them or shoot the MCs with those weapons know that's his best chance to kill them. Whilst his standard S4 AI fire becomes very inefficient against either.

So take about 6-8 MCs (dakkafexes and Dakka Flyrants would be my choices) at this point then a bunch of warriors for troops. An Aegis for early game cover and a couple of Venomthropes to boost it and you're good. Something like this:

Dakka Flyrant 230
Dakka Flyrant 230

3 Warriors: VC 100
3 Warriors: VC 100
3 Warriors: BS 100
3 Warriors: BS 100

Venomthorpe 45
Venomthrope 45

2 Dakkafexes 300
2 Dakkafexes 300
Dakkafex 150

ADL 50]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6449214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6449214.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
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major_payne wrote:
Only thing I like about Tyranid warriors is the 5 point adrenal glands, once they nerfed scything talons re-roll 1's and boneswords ignore armour the warriors got nerfed as well...


They got light nerfs in their options but are still a better choice then before due to the rest of the book changes.
Flingitnow proposes a very good list, not sure about the venomcannons myself (dont see +2 str being as good as pinning + large blast from the Barbed strangler )
ADL seems silly but I guess coud be ok]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450571.page GMT Re:New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
I kinda feel with what scything talons are now it's crazy not to upgrade to rending claws on all of them. Really not liking what they did to talons!

Not sure if it's too expensive but I am pretty sure my warriors will be getting rending claws and deathspitters, plus as many barbed stranglers as I can fit in. Add in enough fex's and other MC and advance everything together and I think the opponent will struggle to take them all down.

Tremble]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450857.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different VC and BS. Large blast and pinning is ace but you can do literally nothing to a mechanised army.

The ADL gets placed on the half way line to grant a 4+ cover to your army as it advances which the Venomthrope increases to a 2+

For warriors I say keep them cheap. They are a cheap source of 36" range stuff. Yes Deathspitters and Rending claws are good (as are flesh hooks) but the more expensive they are the more S8 firepower they will attract. For me Deathspitters are only worth it if you have spare points or a Prime joining the squad. Whilst Rending claws are for CC guys which I just don't think are worth it this edition. Look at my list literally everything except the warriors is Ap2 and S6+ I don't need or want the warriors fighting anything good.

Though looking at it I think I got confused as I wrote a 1750 list not 1850. You could either add another Warrior squad or Drop the ADL for another Dakkafex. Or add something else to taste for 100 points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6450959.page GMT Re:New Nids 1850.....Something a little different MC pop the transport and the barbed stranglers pin the troops inside.
the extra 100 points missing in your list could use some zoan for (semi) long range ant tank, maybe switching the lone dakkafex for an Exocrine, this would give you more points for fun stuff like 2 zoan and an extar warrior if you drop the ADL. or lictors or even likely hive guards could be good.

Also if you like the Warriors then the close combat Shrikes actually got much better than before. They got 7pts cheaper per model (that's a lot) when equipped with rending claws (instead of devourer) and toxin sacs.
They even gained an extra attack each (lost the re-rolls "1" to hit but I much prefer an extra attack) and given the venomthropes shrouding actually gained survivability (also would serve as a distraction to not shoot the venomthrope since both are a good choice for the opponents anti infantry gun). They are the only choice for synapse in fast attack and given the new instinctive behavior tables they are more important.
As a recap the are cheaper, stronger, tougher and more important. I say this is a win. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6451914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6451914.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
Flyrant w/ double devourer and shredder beetles 240

2 hive guard 110

2 x 5 warriors 4 deathspitters, BS 360
2 x 3 warriors, VC 200
2 x 4 warriors 3 rending claws, VC 290

2 x 2 dakkafexes 600

aegis 50

I think this has a good deal of shooting and a little buff to CC. I like having the hive guard for the range (limited) anti-tank.

@Flingitnow I prefer have a heavy troop base in my lists. It has worked with the way I play better.

@fartherthanfar I just feel that shrikes are far to squishy with only a 5+ and as they are jump infantry they would be a priority and go down too quickly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452771.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different IMHO.

I think Venomthropes would be better than Hiveguard and give you 2+ cover with the ADL. The increase in points coupled with the decrease in Bs has really hurt them. Get AT from Devourers, Tfexes and Zoans.

Dropping to 6 units of 3 warriors nets you enough points for a 2nd Dakka Flyrant and still gives you lots of troops. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452841.page GMT New Nids 1850.....Something a little different http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452989.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573893/6452989.page GMT Re:New Nids 1850.....Something a little different
still have to mention that barbed strangler is a much better option than venom cannon, for anti tank the flyrant is worth 12 teams of warriors with venom cannon.
Deathspiters are not worth their points unless you fight dark eldars all the time, and even then....

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