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				<description><![CDATA[ Is been a while since I played any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, in the past 2 years, I finally decided to pull my models out and get started again.  After convincing a friend or two to pull them out three weeks later spending ton's of time completing models that were shelved.  With that said I have had a steep curve to catch up. <br /> <br /> One of my close friends is hosting a game in a couple of weeks and I need some help creating a solid list to combat <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>. The points limit is 1000, however 250 of those points must be spent on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>(s).<br /> <br /> I'm looking for a list of pure <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> I've got a couple of ideas but would love to hear what you all have to say, only real exception is Inquisitor Coteas ( restricted by my model library).<br /> <br /> Thanks so much for your assistance]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:48:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need some advise</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ First, I would suggest adding "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>" to the thread title, will get you more help than me! (I know pith-all about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> comparatively)<br /> <br /> 250 points for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s sounds a lot! I don't hit that at 2000pts (I play Eldar) but I suppose <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> are more hero-based.<br /> <br /> Are you expecting the Chaos player to field a Helldrake? If so an all-terminator could be viable but you'll end up with a fairly low model count.<br /> <br /> With the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>-heavy rule, perhaps a Brotherhood Champion (if I'm thinking of the right thing) where he can take out a character in one go when he dies?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:01:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Quanar]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Title updated .... <br /> <br /> 250 points for an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> is for some extra fun.  My friend has not played in some time either and he has this love affair with Abaddon but in a re-learn smaller game his costs are just too high <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  So we set up this game condition to allow us to play around with some of our more elitte <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices while still keeping the game at an easy to manage size (again just a friendly game to ignite the flames of war).<br /> <br /> As for what I'm expecting .... I know he has a Heldrake, as well as a forgefiend, squad of possessed, squad of thousand son's, 2 obliterator, 1 predator (with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>), tons of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Land Raider, Defiler .  I know he has also really been digging the walking meat cultist shields.<br /> <br /> Also my models would prob help ... proxy's will be okay for this as well (too a point).  15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>'s in Term; 30 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>'s in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(333);'>PA</span>; 1 Dreadknight; Librarian; Coteaz; working on mocking up a Dread with twinlinked Auto cannons x2.  I also have about 2500 pnts of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> <br /> <br /> I will be drawing up some ideas today/tonight and will post for your reviews ... again thanks a lot]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:22:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Paladins are brilliant but will cost a lot of points if you give them all the up grades. Having said that I just finished a game where they managed to kill a horde of gaunts and a trygon prime. Your biggest problem will be whether you go for termies or strike squads. You will get more strike squads for your points but they are obviously more fragile than termies and I wouldn't bother getting rhino's for them as that basically gives your opponent first blood. After that it's a question of Dread Knights or landraiders. Landraiders are still iconic models but if you take a Grand Master you can make those dread knights scoring 3<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:15:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Wow a lot of points on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hqs</span> for 1k.... Especially with a army that has already expensive troops ( unless you run Coteaz coincidentally) <br /> <br /> That being said your best off grabbing a grandmaster (your going to need the extra scoring units) and some form of psyker support for the rest of the points<br /> <br /> Your going to need a way to deal with the hell drake or this will be a very short venture indeed, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span> your pretty point starved to go affording a quad aegis, best bet is probably the raven <br /> <br /> Though without the cheap henchmen bodies this will be a stretch either way , try to get a solid force of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span> bodies after that and maybe a cheap dreadknight with just flamer ( sans pack, I hate to suggest such but the cost will be too much, use the knight for distraction/ counter assault  to buy your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span> time ) <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> This is what I'd run <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>Gk</span> grandmaster ( 1 x servo skull, digital weapons) <br /> <br /> Xenos inquisitor ( psyker, psykotroke grenades ) <br /> <br /> 3 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span> strike squad ( 1 x psycannon) <br /> <br /> Stormraven ( <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span>, asscannon, hurricane bolters, psy bolts ) <br /> <br /> Dreadknight ( h. Incinerator ) <br /> <br /> 1k on the nose ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:15:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arthas367]]></author>
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				<title>Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Looking to face a hell drake and dominate chaos...don't use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(307);'>PAGK</span>...only take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(313);'>TAGK</span> except for characters...you'll be denying a fair portion of his points by doing this...and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gks</span> do termies better than anyone.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:04:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ductvader]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/fe9ba0554ff96fbe11770b3a0d31e11c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574214/6452728.page"><b>ductvader wrote:</b></a><br/>Looking to face a hell drake and dominate chaos...don't use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(307);'>PAGK</span>...only take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(313);'>TAGK</span> except for characters...you'll be denying a fair portion of his points by doing this...and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gks</span> do termies better than anyone.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> His opponent takes one Drake and he what denies 170 pts? with 400+ pts in troops? at that point you can wave any form of support from other slots gone as with your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hqs</span> your at 650 min for 11 models, and dont think helldrakes wont still kill nators, vector and forcing tests with a 2+ wounding flamer will still doom you <br /> <br /> Terminators arent the right call here, he will out force you on armor saves, since your firepower will seriously be low, and if abbaddon combat happens he will eat a squad himself per turn<br /> <br /> also small thing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> is far superior in all terminator forces, ever play a game with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> terminators against a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> its a mess if combat happens, stormshield/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> just ruins their day, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span> terminators specialize in ap3]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:15:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arthas367]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Okay here goes it:<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Grand Master                380 pnts<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Terminators<br />      4 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(509);'>NFH</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br />      1 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(512);'>NDH</span> with Incinerator<br /> <br /> Ordo Malleus Inquisitor                   197 pnts<br />      Psyker<br />      <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(333);'>PA</span>; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span>; Daemonblade; 3 x Servo Skull<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Strike Marines<br />      4 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(508);'>NFS</span>; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br />      1 x Psycannon<br /> <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Purifiers                                262 pnts<br />     1 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(509);'>NFH</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br />     7 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(508);'>NFS</span> with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br />     2 x Incinerator<br />     psybolt ammo<br /> <br /> 1 Nemesis Dreadknight            160 pnts<br />    Heavy Incinerator<br /> <br /> With a total points cost of 999]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 19 Jan 2014 06:33:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ miss post ... sorry]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:20:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need some advise on GK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Okay here it goes did some reading going out of my comfort zone dropping the Terminators and going with the high priced <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(511);'>NWS</span>.  I can't take any credit for this but when I read it it made some sense.  Put <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(512);'>NDH</span> on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>IC</span> and they can take on challenges from most things without a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> or equivalent and can then <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>ID</span> due to S8.  Then if I get some nasty challenge (I'm sure my friend will field Abaddon) I can tank it on the Justicar with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(511);'>NWS</span>.  Let me know what you all think.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>Inq</span>. Coteaz - Divination - 600 pnt<br /> <br /> 10 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> Just - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(511);'>NWS</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> 7 x GKSM - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(508);'>NFS</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> 2 x GKSM - Psycannon<br /> <br /> StormRaven<br /> - TLMM<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(478);'>TLAC</span><br /> - Spon. Hurc. Bolter<br /> - 4x Mindstrike Missiles<br /> - Psybolt<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Lib. - Divination - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(512);'>NDH</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span> - 400 pnts<br /> <br /> 10 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> Just - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(511);'>NWS</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> 7 x GKSM - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(508);'>NFS</span> & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(213);'>SB</span><br /> 2 x GKSM - Psycannon<br /> <br /> Total 1000 pnts on the nose]]></description>
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