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Is been a while since I played any 40k, in the past 2 years, I finally decided to pull my models out and get started again. After convincing a friend or two to pull them out three weeks later spending ton's of time completing models that were shelved. With that said I have had a steep curve to catch up.

One of my close friends is hosting a game in a couple of weeks and I need some help creating a solid list to combat CSM. The points limit is 1000, however 250 of those points must be spent on a HQ(s).

I'm looking for a list of pure GK I've got a couple of ideas but would love to hear what you all have to say, only real exception is Inquisitor Coteas ( restricted by my model library).

Thanks so much for your assistance

First, I would suggest adding "GK" to the thread title, will get you more help than me! (I know pith-all about GK comparatively)

250 points for HQ's sounds a lot! I don't hit that at 2000pts (I play Eldar) but I suppose GK are more hero-based.

Are you expecting the Chaos player to field a Helldrake? If so an all-terminator could be viable but you'll end up with a fairly low model count.

With the HQ-heavy rule, perhaps a Brotherhood Champion (if I'm thinking of the right thing) where he can take out a character in one go when he dies?

Title updated ....

250 points for an HQ is for some extra fun. My friend has not played in some time either and he has this love affair with Abaddon but in a re-learn smaller game his costs are just too high So we set up this game condition to allow us to play around with some of our more elitte HQ choices while still keeping the game at an easy to manage size (again just a friendly game to ignite the flames of war).

As for what I'm expecting .... I know he has a Heldrake, as well as a forgefiend, squad of possessed, squad of thousand son's, 2 obliterator, 1 predator (with LC), tons of CSM, Land Raider, Defiler . I know he has also really been digging the walking meat cultist shields.

Also my models would prob help ... proxy's will be okay for this as well (too a point). 15 GK's in Term; 30 GK's in PA; 1 Dreadknight; Librarian; Coteaz; working on mocking up a Dread with twinlinked Auto cannons x2. I also have about 2500 pnts of IG

I will be drawing up some ideas today/tonight and will post for your reviews ... again thanks a lot

Paladins are brilliant but will cost a lot of points if you give them all the up grades. Having said that I just finished a game where they managed to kill a horde of gaunts and a trygon prime. Your biggest problem will be whether you go for termies or strike squads. You will get more strike squads for your points but they are obviously more fragile than termies and I wouldn't bother getting rhino's for them as that basically gives your opponent first blood. After that it's a question of Dread Knights or landraiders. Landraiders are still iconic models but if you take a Grand Master you can make those dread knights scoring 3

Wow a lot of points on hqs for 1k.... Especially with a army that has already expensive troops ( unless you run Coteaz coincidentally)

That being said your best off grabbing a grandmaster (your going to need the extra scoring units) and some form of psyker support for the rest of the points

Your going to need a way to deal with the hell drake or this will be a very short venture indeed, and tbh your pretty point starved to go affording a quad aegis, best bet is probably the raven

Though without the cheap henchmen bodies this will be a stretch either way , try to get a solid force of gk bodies after that and maybe a cheap dreadknight with just flamer ( sans pack, I hate to suggest such but the cost will be too much, use the knight for distraction/ counter assault to buy your gk time )


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This is what I'd run

Gk grandmaster ( 1 x servo skull, digital weapons)

Xenos inquisitor ( psyker, psykotroke grenades )

3 x gk strike squad ( 1 x psycannon)

Stormraven ( mm, asscannon, hurricane bolters, psy bolts )

Dreadknight ( h. Incinerator )

1k on the nose

Looking to face a hell drake and dominate chaos...don't use PAGK...only take TAGK except for characters...you'll be denying a fair portion of his points by doing this...and gks do termies better than anyone.

 ductvader wrote:
Looking to face a hell drake and dominate chaos...don't use PAGK...only take TAGK except for characters...you'll be denying a fair portion of his points by doing this...and gks do termies better than anyone.

His opponent takes one Drake and he what denies 170 pts? with 400+ pts in troops? at that point you can wave any form of support from other slots gone as with your hqs your at 650 min for 11 models, and dont think helldrakes wont still kill nators, vector and forcing tests with a 2+ wounding flamer will still doom you

Terminators arent the right call here, he will out force you on armor saves, since your firepower will seriously be low, and if abbaddon combat happens he will eat a squad himself per turn

also small thing DW is far superior in all terminator forces, ever play a game with GK terminators against a DW its a mess if combat happens, stormshield/ TH just ruins their day, gk terminators specialize in ap3

Okay here goes it:

Grey Knight Grand Master 380 pnts
5 GK Terminators
4 x NFH with SB
1 x NDH with Incinerator

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor 197 pnts
Psyker
PA; BP; Daemonblade; 3 x Servo Skull
5 GK Strike Marines
4 x NFS; SB
1 x Psycannon

10 GK Purifiers 262 pnts
1 x NFH with SB
7 x NFS with SB
2 x Incinerator
psybolt ammo

1 Nemesis Dreadknight 160 pnts
Heavy Incinerator

With a total points cost of 999

miss post ... sorry

Okay here it goes did some reading going out of my comfort zone dropping the Terminators and going with the high priced NWS. I can't take any credit for this but when I read it it made some sense. Put NDH on the IC and they can take on challenges from most things without a PF or equivalent and can then ID due to S8. Then if I get some nasty challenge (I'm sure my friend will field Abaddon) I can tank it on the Justicar with the NWS. Let me know what you all think.


Inq. Coteaz - Divination - 600 pnt

10 x GK SS
Just - NWS & SB
7 x GKSM - NFS & SB
2 x GKSM - Psycannon

StormRaven
- TLMM
- TLAC
- Spon. Hurc. Bolter
- 4x Mindstrike Missiles
- Psybolt


GK Lib. - Divination - NDH & SB - 400 pnts

10 x GK SS
Just - NWS & SB
7 x GKSM - NFS & SB
2 x GKSM - Psycannon

Total 1000 pnts on the nose