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Tigurius

Elite
5 Sternguard - 3 combi melta - Drop pod

Troops
10 tacticals -Plasma, missile Launcher - Rhino
10 Tacticals - Melta, missile Launcher - Rhino
5 Sniper Scouts

Fast Attack
StormTalon - Skyhammer

Heavy Support
StormRaven
Thunderfire Cannon
3 Dev Centurions - 3 Grav, omniscope

Thanks for your input]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461599.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461599.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461737.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list MM land speeders. It's the same concept, but you have a jink save and you only need to get within 12" for the melta effect.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461781.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list
 The Shrike wrote:
Is there not a cheaper suicide melta option than sternguard in a pod? at the very least for similar points you may be able to get more melta shots a multiple targets with deep striking MM land speeders. It's the same concept, but you have a jink save and you only need to get within 12" for the melta effect.


But they're unreliable as they MAY come in on T2, but possibly not until much later when they're useless.

The Podding sternguard are in on T1, guaranteed.

It's a choice between guaranteed arrival when you need it most and a crap-shoot.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461784.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461793.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461793.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list ML's from the Tac squads to pick up another couple Combi Meltas for the stern. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461808.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list
Plus the Ultramarines love sternguard as I will be rerolling 1's for combat doctrine

If I dropped the Centurions what would you suggest fielding. I currently don't own the models so I'd like options]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461831.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list SG, but again, they need 5 combis. I'd give my assent to dropping a ML.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461836.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6461836.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list tac squads ones to match their specials.

I would not take the MLs away from the tacs. sometimes you need an extra S8 shot winging across the table. Without heavies on the tacs, all your AV fire is on/in flyers, close range, or the sternguard.

I’m not a big fan of 5 man suicide sternguard, but understand why you have them. I’d rather have a full 10 man squad, but you are not going to get that unless you bump up the points or cut other vital units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6462123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6462123.page GMT Re:1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list tac squad with melta and combi melta in drop pod , ultra chapter tactics give rerolls]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6467846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6467846.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468382.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list

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Tell me those Dev Centurians have missile launchers as well yes?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468441.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468727.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468727.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468901.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6468901.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list
skycapt44 wrote:
Stormravens, in my opinion, should almost always be empty as if they get shot down you are putting too many eggs in one basket. Especially at 1500pts. Naw I didn't have the points for missile cents unfortunately.


Stormraven rule, (strike/death?) from the skies rule.

If the Stormraven has moved more than 6', the guys can jump out. Roll for scatter, and if you do, take a dangerous terrain test. So there's literally no extra risk, throwing say.. centurions out, than if the thing was empty.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6472348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6472348.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6473219.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6473219.page GMT 1500 pts Ultramarines Tournament list
 smithy12262 wrote:
skycapt44 wrote:
Stormravens, in my opinion, should almost always be empty as if they get shot down you are putting too many eggs in one basket. Especially at 1500pts. Naw I didn't have the points for missile cents unfortunately.


Stormraven rule, (strike/death?) from the skies rule.

If the Stormraven has moved more than 6', the guys can jump out. Roll for scatter, and if you do, take a dangerous terrain test. So there's literally no extra risk, throwing say.. centurions out, than if the thing was empty.


While you can jump out of the raven and shoot stuff, and there are times you will want to, there are other problems with that stratagy. The big one is that with a third of your army hinging on one reserve roll, the rest of your forces are going to be facing an uphill battle. Shooting units in reserve are not as bad as assault units, but most of the time I'd want them on the table putting fire downrange turn one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6475300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574963/6475300.page GMT