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Want to stay with Tzeentch.
May not be comparative but want to get as close as I can.
Any suggestions would be helpful!

HQ
150 - Herald of Tzeentch – level 2 psyker exalted rewards, burning chariot
150 - Herald of Tzeentch – level 2 psyker exalted rewards, burning chariot
150 - Herald of Tzeentch – level 2 psyker exalted rewards, burning chariot
75 – The Changeling

Elites
107 – 4 Flamers of Tzeentch

Troops
215 – 20 Pink Horrors, Icon of Chaos, Instrument, Iridescent Horror with lesser rewards
215 – 20 Pink Horrors, Icon of Chaos, Instrument, Iridescent Horror with lesser rewards
215 – 20 Pink Horrors, Icon of Chaos, Instrument, Iridescent Horror with lesser rewards

Fast Attack
125 – 5 Screamers
125 – 5 Screamers

Heavy Support
110 – Burning Chariot, Blue Horror Crew
110 – Burning Chariot, Blue Horror Crew
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479503.page GMT Re:1750 - First try at Tzeentch daemons
Congratulations! Tzeentch is the most competitive god of the Chaos Daemons Codex and his lists are among the top 3 or so strongest armies in all of warhammer 40k in the current meta. Prepare to wreck face!

The basic idea with his 2 competitive lists is to take the minimum amount of troops, and start them out in reserves to keep them off the board and when it comes time to claim objective, deep strike them in where needed. Also, with the exalted reward the portal glyph, if you place it strategically, you can spawn all the troops you need for just a 30 point investment.

With all those extra points, you buy the most deadly and durable units in the game!

List one, the screamer star:

Fateweaver
Herald of Tzeentch- disk of tzeentch, ML3, Grimoire of true names
Herald of Tzeentch- disk of tzeentch, ML3
Herald of Tzeentch- disk of tzeentch, ML3
Herald of Tzeentch- disk of tzeentch, ML3
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
9 Screamers
Daemon Prince- DoT, armor, wings, ML 2, exalted reward
Daemon Prince- DoT, armor, wings, ML 2, greater reward

The heralds all join the screamer unit as ICs, and the grimoire holder blesses the squad. All the heralds roll on divination. One is bound to get the 4++ save blessing. Combined with the grimoire and DoT rules, this gives the whole unit but the grimoire holder a 2++ re-rollable invuln save. INCREDIBLY BROKEN. Just make sure the grimore holder doesnt get killed. Keep in mind you have to roll a 3+ for the grimoire to work, otherwise it makes your save into a 5++ rerollable and your opponent will take the opportunity to strike you, but FEAR NOT! Fateweaver's staff of tomorrow will allow you to re-roll that failed roll and chances are you will get it the second time. The DP with the exalted reward takes the portal glyph

List two, the flying circus:
Fateweaver
Be'Lakor
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
10 Pink Horrors
Daemon Prince- DoT, armor, wings, ML 3, exalted reward grimoire
Daemon Prince- DoT, armor, wings, ML 3, exalted reward portal glyph
Daemon Prince- DoT, armor, wings, ML 3, greater reward

This list basically capitalizes on the fact that flying monstrous creatures are the flavor of the month. 6th edition made them incredibly strong. From smash attacks that can kill AV14 vehicles even with ease, the durability and mobility that flying provides, and the all around high statline most have, they really dominate. Roll on biomancy for their magic to make them beefy as hell! Fateweavers re-roll in this list is focused on re-rolling grounding tests. A grounded FMC is a dead one, often times. Another good use of fateweavers reroll is the warpstorm table.

Remember these are just templates. The details are argued about here and there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479679.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479679.page GMT 1750 - First try at Tzeentch daemons
You run the 4 Heralds and attach them to the 9 Screamers. You give one Herald the Grimoir to give the squad +2 to its invul save (if you fail this you can use Kairos' power to reroll it once per turn) you then use a certain power on the Divnation table (can't remember the name) to give your squad a 4++ invul save. This then stacks with the Grimoir so the squad now has a 2++ save which is re-rollable thanks to Tzeentch Daemons re-rolling all saving throws of 1. You also use the Divination Primaris power so you can re-roll to hit and there are some other useful powers as well. Also roll once on the Tzeentch table for all of the Heralds so they have a shooting attack of some description.

Use Kairos and Be'lakor as annoying support psychic buffers just flying around. Be'lakor is a nice duelist as well so don't be afraid to take on the enemies beat stick.

Try this out.

HQ:
Kairos Fateweaver (Warlord) - 300

Herald of Tzeentch w/ Mastery Level 3, Disc of Tzeentch, Grimoir of True Names - 140
Herald of Tzeentch w/ Mastery Level 3, Disc of Tzeentch, Exalted Locus of Conjuration - 135
Herald of Tzeentch w/ Mastery Level 3, Disc of Tzeentch - 110
Herald of Tzeentch w/ Mastery Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch - 85

Troops:
10 Horrors - 90
10 Horrors - 90

Fast Attack:
9 Screamers - 225

CSM Allies:

HQ:
Be'lakor - 350

Troops:
10 Cultist - 50

Fast Attack:
Heldrake w/ Baleflamer - 170

This is called a Screamerstar and is one of the best builds going around at the moment in terms of competitiveness.

 changerofways wrote:
Another good use of fateweavers reroll is the warpstorm table.


His warlord trait does that by default so you probably shouldn't waste his re-roll.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479706.page GMT Re:1750 - First try at Tzeentch daemons Thank you guys.
going to work on a new list along the lines you are laying out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479733.page GMT 1750 - First try at Tzeentch daemons detachment, thus needing to be the warlord.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6479805.page GMT 1750 - First try at Tzeentch daemons
 obsidiankatana wrote:
I believe the staff of tomorrow re-rolling the warpstorm table was due to Be'Lakor being in the C detachment, thus needing to be the warlord.


Oh yeah. That's why I usually like to pay the 50 point Cultist tax and take him in Allies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6480036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576214/6480036.page GMT