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Was my gloss varnish layer too thick? Should I keep adding coats of matte varnish by brush? I am hesitent to go the final step and airbrush the matte varnish because I want to handle this "decal sheen" first. Thanks for the help guys. I feel like this is ruining the models I put so much time and effort into!

- 2nd Ultra]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492050.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting That'll clear out that kinda of thing. At which stage are you applying your decals? It should be done BEFORE any weathering


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sorry, I should also clarify after the final gloss to seal it all in is to go over with matte if that's the desired finish]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492384.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting
I think you may be applying your decals and solutions too soon after applying your varnish, resulting in some sort of decal glue, solution and varnish soup. Let the varnishes dry much longer and I think it would eliminate the problem. Usually I let my varnishes dry overnight or apply them in the morning before I go to work. That way they have time to dry/cure/whatever and the model is ready to be worked on some more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492438.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492438.page GMT Re:Decal Help and Troubleshooting
That sounds practical, that I am applying the decal too soon after the gloss varnish. That advice sounds great for future models. Is there now way to fix the models that I have currently made the mistake on? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492463.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492474.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492474.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492479.page GMT Re:Decal Help and Troubleshooting
2ndultra wrote:
@DreamKnight and @AngularDeath

That sounds practical, that I am applying the decal too soon after the gloss varnish. That advice sounds great for future models. Is there now way to fix the models that I have currently made the mistake on?


Personally, I would probably strip the decals (you can do that with the microset) and paint over that goop/whatever occurred there and start the decal application process over again, letting the varnish dry much longer before you apply decals this time. That's how I would attack it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492507.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492507.page GMT Re:Decal Help and Troubleshooting

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@AngularDeath

MicroSet can soften the decal and help remove even after 2-3 applications of micro sol and 24hours drying time. What is your process for removing decals like that? How long do you let the micro set work in and what do you use to strip the decal? Hopefully Dreamknight comes up with some magic and I wont be forced to strip the decal and repaint the area.


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@ StormPhoenix Painting over the sheen sounds like a great idea, but my basecoat and layer coat are both airbrushed on. I'm not sure my airbrush detail work is up to the task and painting that close to a decal without ruining it. I havent tried brush paint over an airbrush layer but I imagine that would stand out almost as bad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492517.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492517.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting
What I would do personally is cover the whole tank in Gloss Varnish and then cover it over with Matte Varnish and continue where I left off. This is ASSUMING you are using an airbrush. I'd put on 3 or 4 THIN coats of gloss (wait for it to dry in between each layer). this will make the all the surface glossed and even. Then a couple of layers of matte to get back to where you were and continue where you left off.
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Another thing he could do, if he is very careful, is paint around the decals. Personally, I don't have the skill or patience to cover that much space and detail, which is why I suggested stripping, cleaning up the area, and reapplying.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6492569.page GMT Re:Decal Help and Troubleshooting
 2ndultra wrote:

@ StormPhoenix Painting over the sheen sounds like a great idea, but my basecoat and layer coat are both airbrushed on. I'm not sure my airbrush detail work is up to the task and painting that close to a decal without ruining it. I havent tried brush paint over an airbrush layer but I imagine that would stand out almost as bad.

What you have is more or less the normal process of decaling, you just need to finish it.

Put a layer of gloss varnish down as smooth as possible (airbrush it if need be) then use the MicroSol and MicroSet method that you already know. When the decals are dry, give them a coat of gloss to seal them and then airbrush your matte varnish over the decal; more than one coat may be necessary.

I typically give the entire model a coat of gloss after the primary color work is done and apply any decals before continuing on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6493205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6493205.page GMT Decal Help and Troubleshooting
By the way, applying these coats via airbrush solves a lot of these problems as well.

A. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6494840.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577064/6494840.page GMT