<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Battle seer"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Battle seer I was wondering how to beef up the farseer so he is an actual threat in melee, and What do you guys think/how would you home brew. (and what are the chances that it would be in the supplement)

Ethorial Pts- 160 pts
Ws Bs S T W I A LD Sv
6....5...3.3.3.6.1.10..4++
Sp-rules: Anciant Doom, Battle focus, Fleet, Ic, Psyker lv2(Pyromance,telepathy,Runes of fate)
Gear- Runic armour, Ghost helm, shuriken pistol.
Relics-Young kings blade- Str +2 Ap1 melee
12" Str8 Ap1 melta
Warlord trait Chosen battle field
A cumalitive +/- 1 to both you and your opponents roll.( on a 5+ you can affect them)

He trades a bit of psychic mastery for melee capabilities.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525146.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525146.page GMT Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525221.page GMT Re:Battle seer (its a combination between eldard/avatar weapon)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525241.page GMT Battle seer
He seems better than an autarch and with upgrades and can cast powers.

I suggest downgrading his stats and weapons personally then go from there. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525246.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525246.page GMT Re:Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525252.page GMT Battle seer
I think its ok other than that. Like a cross between an autarch and farseer. Have you considered the shard of anarus?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525259.page GMT Re:Battle seer ws/attacks, unless i get death mission, then it looses its support.

And instead of making it 2 Handed, i just decreased his stat A to 1 so 3 on charge, 2 on receiving. Still damaging, can swing the fight but not win it by himself
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525281.page GMT Battle seer HQ that will do what you need without over doing what you need. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525317.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525317.page GMT Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525517.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525517.page GMT Battle seer
You do need to rename the sword, since everything else is being sorted in a fair manner.

Simply put, the Young King only has one purpose: To become the Avatar. The Young King's sword is the Wailing Doom.

Considering its stats, though, it might be best off to just give him a bonus power, a witchblade and a fusion gun.

A bonus power along the lines of;

Might of Eldanesh: The Warseer draws upon the destiny of ancient heroes and the legacy of their hate. This is a WC1 power that grants the Warseer the Smash rule until the start of the Eldar player's next turn.

That way, you still have your 12" S8 AP1 melta (because you have a melta), and your AP2 melee attacks with potentially high strength (smash), without breaking too badly with the fluff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6525650.page GMT Battle seer
 Furyou Miko wrote:
Farseers are not battle-psykers. Warlocks are. Why is there no commander version of the Warlock? Why is an Eldar civilian leading the warhost?!

While I agree with most of what you write, this quoted part itches so much I must scratch.

Because Farseers are the defacto leaders of the Eldar in matters of geopolitics and warfare. They appoint Autarchs if they deem it necessary to do so. Warlocks do not walk the path of the Farseer and is not a leader character any more than Fuegan is - which is to say an experienced Warlock would certainly be decorated enough to lead a warhost, but not as a master weaver of strategy and tactics, but rather as a frontline icon and hero. Which sort of brings me back on topic.

OP: why does a Battleseer have access to Divination and Telepathy? Telepathy I can sort of understand, but wouldn't a Battleseer focus on more visceral applications of warp energy? Say... pyro or bio? We've already got canon for a warrior Farseer forsaking Divination in favour of Pyromancy. Now, now, don't just take Divination because it's good, chose those lores based on what makes sense from a fluff standpoint!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6526891.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6526891.page GMT Battle seer CWE codex, see: rangers).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6526927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6526927.page GMT Re:Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6527000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6527000.page GMT Battle seer Also, no other Farseer wants to play ball with him.

I'd say if you're doing a souped up Warlock type seer then Pyromancy and Telepathy are the most logical go-tos for expansion. Sure, very few will actually play with Pyromancy, but Divination doesn't make sense for a combat-seer of Eldar inclination.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6527269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6527269.page GMT Re:Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528476.page GMT Re:Battle seer If u're up to making homebrew stuff with some fluff - you can't say "...and they all practice divination cause pyromancy sux" ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528959.page GMT Re:Battle seer hq resembling something similar to this would make it into the Bieltan or the Ulthwe (if ulthwe gets one) supplement?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6528993.page GMT Battle seer
Shortly: Someone homebrewed it, so they won't use it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6529545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6529545.page GMT Battle seer Here's some projections:
Black Guardians which are better equipped Guardians.
Seer Council which is a HQ with more than one Farseer.
Overabundance of Warlocks, I'd expect Warlocks in Aspect Warrior units, even!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531443.page GMT Re:Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531467.page GMT Battle seer GW will pervert the fluff like that, but again it's doubtful. Biel-Tan will most likely focus entirely on Aspect Warriors and I expect their HQ special to revolve around the Avatar, a certain Young King and a court of Exarchs.

Let's face it, they've already released a hero-psycher in the form of Belannath and I don't think they'll step on Forgeworld's toes more than necessary.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531508.page GMT Battle seer lvl 4 knowing all powers from pyro.

Otherwise just guesses. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531547.page GMT Battle seer
Biel-tan doesn't revere seers as much as Uthwe, and Uthwe has their Guardians protect their Seers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6531993.page GMT Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6532028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6532028.page GMT Battle seer
Farseers are as different from Warlocks as software architects are from frontline IT support. Different levels and different professions.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6532068.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6532068.page GMT Battle seer
Bharring wrote:
I'd love it - but perhaps it should have a different name, like 'Elder Warlock', or 'Lost Warlock' (as in Lost on the Path) or something.


...Last I checked a Farseer was a Warlock lost to the Witch Path...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6539688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6539688.page GMT Re:Battle seer Khaine is a deviant to the witch path that the warlocks tend to lean on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6564663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6564663.page GMT Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565050.page GMT Re:Battle seer http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565142.page GMT Battle seer
(Every Eldar in the Craftworld follows one path or another at any given time. Poetry, engineering, whatever. Even those who refuse to are considered to be on the 'Path' of 'Exile'.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/579053/6565318.page GMT