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				<description><![CDATA[ Inquisition <br /> Ordo Herecticus Inquisitor - Master level 1 - 55Pts<br /> Henchmen:<br /> Jokaero Weaponsmith, 4x Acolyte with Hot-shot lasguns - Chimera 142Pts<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> - Chimera, Officer of the Fleet - 135pts<br /> <br /> Elites: <br /> Guardsmen Marbo - 65pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCS</span> - 4xFlamer(Vendetta) 50Pts<br /> Infantry squad - Lascannon 70Pts<br /> Infantry squad - Lascannon 70Pts<br /> Infantry squad - Lascannon 70Pts<br /> <br /> Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma, Chimera 170 Pts<br /> Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma, Chimera 170 Pts<br /> <br /> Fast attack:<br /> Hellhound 130Pts<br /> Hellhound 130Pts<br /> Vendetta 130Pts<br /> <br /> Heavy support:<br /> Leman Russ Exterminator - Plasma Sponsons 190 Pts<br /> Leman Russ Vanquisher - Lascannon, Pask 220 Pts<br /> Leman Russ 150 Pts<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(516);'>AGL</span> - 50Pts<br /> <br /> 1997Pts<br /> <br /> <br /> Im taking this to a little tournament with some friends. They aint gonna cheese. Quite the opposite to be honest, going for fun, but I also wanna have a good chance of winning<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> If you think the inquisition is pointless, then Ill take it out, I just got some awesome new models done and wanted to use them, but im happy enough to take them out. And the weaponsmith I have a awesome dwarve model I made for it which I wanna use<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> I also dont have any arty so thats also out of the question. I could also of got the name of the Advisor wrong, Im gonna use the one which gives me a better reserve roll.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Anyone?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, I'd remove the regular guards and take more veterans, hitting on a 3 plus as opposed to a 4 plus, and taking forward sentry on all of your squads gives them a +1 cover save, but replace your lascannons with auto cannons, same power vs. tanks, but a lot more versatile. you should still be around the same point cost. so the changes aren't much different, but add a lot more survival ability  and versatility to your army.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Feb 2014 04:50:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ea84e26269e0bf0e37ef34847cde4aaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6578996.page"><b>Brennonjw wrote:</b></a><br/>So, I'd remove the regular guards and take more veterans, hitting on a 3 plus as opposed to a 4 plus, and taking forward sentry on all of your squads gives them a +1 cover save, but replace your lascannons with auto cannons, same power vs. tanks, but a lot more versatile. you should still be around the same point cost. so the changes aren't much different, but add a lot more survival ability  and versatility to your army.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Vets would be more expensive and considering Im using a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> i cant see the FS being useful. I took the Lascannons because Im going up against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> all of which use landraiders, so I need to kill them asap.<br /> <br /> Thanks for the response]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What other Leman Russ Variants do you have? I'd be considering the Demolisher variants like the Executioner and Demolisher over the standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span> variants predominantly.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:42:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3bb5ab03a3536a2fcefc4b75fc7845f6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6579748.page"><b>Mr.Omega wrote:</b></a><br/>What other Leman Russ Variants do you have? I'd be considering the Demolisher variants like the Executioner and Demolisher over the standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span> variants predominantly.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would run with a demolisher or something, but I honestly come up against long fangs, grey hunters, death company and all the 3 armor saves. So a 72" insta kill large blast is something I kinda needed filling in my list, if there's anything else that does it better and more efficiently then Ill happily use that. Or do you think a demolisher is still better?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:28:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4a6d2ff4dd4079b2f2119820632c4101.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6580058.page"><b>Alphabet wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3bb5ab03a3536a2fcefc4b75fc7845f6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6579748.page"><b>Mr.Omega wrote:</b></a><br/>What other Leman Russ Variants do you have? I'd be considering the Demolisher variants like the Executioner and Demolisher over the standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span> variants predominantly.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would run with a demolisher or something, but I honestly come up against long fangs, grey hunters, death company and all the 3 armor saves. So a 72" insta kill large blast is something I kinda needed filling in my list, if there's anything else that does it better and more efficiently then Ill happily use that. Or do you think a demolisher is still better?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well, myself I'd take a Demolisher over a Vanquisher even if its got Pask because of the dual role capability - a S10 AP2 ordnance hit is going to hurt a tank hard, and can also flatten an entire squad. Plus, it saves you a ton of points. <br /> <br /> If you ever see Monstrous Creatures the Executioner is quite good at handling them, and is more reliable overall - you're more likely to hit at least something, and its not too far fetched that you do as much damage as a Battlecannon or Demolisher cannon perfect hit. The amount of times I've lost games because my large pie plate dispensers had a riot first turn and completely fluffed it at the turning point missing everything I've lost count of. <br /> <br /> That said, I wouldn't take plasma cannon sponsons on it. Hell, I wouldn't take them full stop on any tank just because I know how that with the bouts of crap luck I get sometime It'd be fatal and lose me a game with those gets hot rolls stripping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>'s.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Feb 2014 17:51:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2k IG(Casual player)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3bb5ab03a3536a2fcefc4b75fc7845f6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6580533.page"><b>Mr.Omega wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4a6d2ff4dd4079b2f2119820632c4101.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6580058.page"><b>Alphabet wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3bb5ab03a3536a2fcefc4b75fc7845f6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6579748.page"><b>Mr.Omega wrote:</b></a><br/>What other Leman Russ Variants do you have? I'd be considering the Demolisher variants like the Executioner and Demolisher over the standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span> variants predominantly.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would run with a demolisher or something, but I honestly come up against long fangs, grey hunters, death company and all the 3 armor saves. So a 72" insta kill large blast is something I kinda needed filling in my list, if there's anything else that does it better and more efficiently then Ill happily use that. Or do you think a demolisher is still better?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well, myself I'd take a Demolisher over a Vanquisher even if its got Pask because of the dual role capability - a S10 AP2 ordnance hit is going to hurt a tank hard, and can also flatten an entire squad. Plus, it saves you a ton of points. <br /> <br /> If you ever see Monstrous Creatures the Executioner is quite good at handling them, and is more reliable overall - you're more likely to hit at least something, and its not too far fetched that you do as much damage as a Battlecannon or Demolisher cannon perfect hit. The amount of times I've lost games because my large pie plate dispensers had a riot first turn and completely fluffed it at the turning point missing everything I've lost count of. <br /> <br /> That said, I wouldn't take plasma cannon sponsons on it. Hell, I wouldn't take them full stop on any tank just because I know how that with the bouts of crap luck I get sometime It'd be fatal and lose me a game with those gets hot rolls stripping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>'s.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hmm the problem I have with demolishers is the 24" range, If Im having to use it at that range, there already too close.<br /> <br /> There awesome but I feel for what I want which is long range <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> then vanquisher does that better.<br /> <br /> Feel free to tell me otherwise<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">(Not sarcasm)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Feb 2014 05:22:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Strip down those Lascannons and replace them with Autocannons. Try to avoid mixing roles - Lasguns can't hurt Vehicles and a Lascannon can only kill a single dude from a squad, either is wasting the others potential. <br /> <br /> To compensate for lost <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>, replace a Hellhound with another Vendetta and put one of the Vets in it. Vendettas are amaze-balls.<br /> <br /> Also, if you want Super-Serious-Kill-Everything-Anti-Tank Take a 'Dusa with Bastion Breacher shells. Watch it just gak all over everything with an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br /> <br /> Also Vox-Casters, if you can squeeze them, for the blob. I fail Orders all day, and re-rolling can be a lifesaver.<br /> <br /> I personally like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(638);'>HWTs</span> separate from the Blob so they can do their thing on whatever needs their particular flavour of death.<br /> <br /> That's about all I got.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Feb 2014 05:46:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If it is Land Raiders that worry you I would consider getting melta for CSS, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCS</span> and/or Veterans in Chimeras. <br /> <br /> I also agree with previous posters that the 30 footsloggers are not optimal in this list. All comer lists are bound to have some anti-infantry weapons and 30 guardsmen on foot is just an invitation to use those to good effect. Putting those infantrymen in a Chimera will force your opponent to shoot at armor the first turn.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Feb 2014 06:23:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d38979ee470458f15080845e11be2255.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/581943/6582590.page"><b>Sparkadia wrote:</b></a><br/>Strip down those Lascannons and replace them with Autocannons. Try to avoid mixing roles - Lasguns can't hurt Vehicles and a Lascannon can only kill a single dude from a squad, either is wasting the others potential. <br /> <br /> To compensate for lost <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>, replace a Hellhound with another Vendetta and put one of the Vets in it. Vendettas are amaze-balls.<br /> <br /> Also, if you want Super-Serious-Kill-Everything-Anti-Tank Take a 'Dusa with Bastion Breacher shells. Watch it just gak all over everything with an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br /> <br /> Also Vox-Casters, if you can squeeze them, for the blob. I fail Orders all day, and re-rolling can be a lifesaver.<br /> <br /> I personally like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(638);'>HWTs</span> separate from the Blob so they can do their thing on whatever needs their particular flavour of death.<br /> <br /> That's about all I got.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Unfortunately I don't have another vendetta as it stands, so adding another isnt a option.<br /> <br /> I may have to rethink the list as what your saying is true. I also dont have arty:( Im a Tank/Chimera fanatic unfortuntely.<br /> <br /> I want the optimal list with the models I have but not sure what that would be(I have some more models)<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Can anyone advise me if I should change anything in my list.<br /> <br /> These are the models I have that can be switched around with models in the list.<br /> <br /> Creed, Strakken, Primaris Psyker<br /> Lord Commisar<br /> Commisars<br /> 6 Psykers<br /> 10 Storm troopers<br /> 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> squads<br /> around 8 more guardsmen]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:08:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hellhound is always useful when you play hordes, I would bring the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>'s in for the Lascannons, saying that though I always pick <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> as my heavy choice with my marines.]]></description>
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