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				<description><![CDATA[ SO pay day just went by and my urge to start a horus heresy army can no longer be controlled- So, me being a classic spoon i have just dropped £300 on a new army!<br /> I want to write out a fun list using as much pre heresy stuff as possible so please <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>FYI</span> i do not want to spam bikes with grav guns and centurions with tigirius!<br /> <br /> The list i wrote out feels very minimal but its got all my favourite things in it... let me know what you think and suggest any changes if you like;<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Master of the forge - bike 110 ( to allow the sicaran battle tank- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>FYI</span> I wanted to take a chapter master smash bane with terminator armour, burning blade and storm shield to go with the terminator squad but it is difficult to fit it in.)<br /> <br /> ELITES<br /> Terminator sqaud - MKIV ( deep strike + Powerfist + storm blotters) 200<br /> <br /> Mortis Pattern contemptor - Kheres pattern Assualt cannon - 200 ( <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> Vol. 2 -2nd edition)<br /> <br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> Drop pop tactical - combi melta, melta bombs,  melta, drop pod 200<br /> <br /> Drop pod tactical 2 - Combi melta, melta bombs, flamer 195<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT<br /> Legion Sicaran battle tank - lascannon sponsons 175<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;">Tau Allies<br /> </span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Commander<br /> Puretide, C&CN,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(656);'>MSSS</span>,Iridium - 160 ( to go with the riptide)<br /> <br /> ELITES<br /> Riptide<br /> Ion, Fusion - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span>, Stimulants- 225<br /> <br /> TROOPS<br /> 10x Fire warriors - ( camping on home tree, holding objectives) 90<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT<br /> 3 Broadside - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(657);'>HYMP</span> 195<br /> <br /> <br /> I'm new to running <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> but hate the idea of running a similar list to all my friends - i know inevitable in the grand scheme of things but its fun at least to try and mix things up abit.<br /> <br /> <br /> (please feel free to give me a hand with this)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>PS</span> don't be a dick about things if i've got them wrong or i'll fight you. <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Wilson]]></author>
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				<title>Sons of Horus - SM+Tau allies Forge world 40k 1750 Iron hands chapter tactics</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you can spare the 15 points, get the Puretide Engram Neurochip for your Commander; it offers Tank or Monster Hunter for the Riptide.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Mar 2014 13:58:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Sons of Horus - SM+Tau allies Forge world 40k 1750 Iron hands chapter tactics</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Wait what. Tau Allies in 30k?? Weren't they still Hunter-Gatherers at that point in time? Unless you mean that you're running a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> Iron Hands list that just takes real good care of their old stuff and still has it kicking around  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Can you put the Mortis Contemptor in a Pod? Those guns are only 24" and they'll do quite a bit better against rear armor usually. Against Infantry you'll do the same but it would be better if they're castling. Also, having three pods would allow you to bring in 2 on turn 1. <br /> <br /> If the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> are just camping, you don't need 10. 6 would be fine. Even if you wanted them to have bonding knives so they don't run off, they'll still be a pretty penny cheaper.<br /> Personal preference thing, skip the stims on the Riptide.<br /> <br /> And this isn't a personal preference thing, it's a bad luck thing :p my tactical terminators always die. If I could run them without them dying in one turn (unless they have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>) I would, cause I love em, but they just always die.<br /> <br /> You could throw an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span> in the Broadside unit for an even 200 pts and to help with those silly fliers. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(657);'>HYMP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> always do better for me against flyers than the Riptide but that's probably just a luck thing too.<br /> <br /> And I always see the Master of the Forge with a Conversion Beamer. Especially on a bike. Give him Artificer Armor and a Storm Shield and he can run around the back of the board by himself sniping things with his hand mounted Demolisher Cannon (you gotta admit the profiles are pretty similar)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:17:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bocatt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583835/6615574.page"><b>DirtyDeeds wrote:</b></a><br/>If you can spare the 15 points, get the Puretide Engram Neurochip for your Commander; it offers Tank or Monster Hunter for the Riptide.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> Have a look dude; already there <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3f50d261532ee7d6cb3c3e8ff9ed90ce.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/583835/6615619.page"><b>bocatt wrote:</b></a><br/>Wait what. Tau Allies in 30k?? Weren't they still Hunter-Gatherers at that point in time? Unless you mean that you're running a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> Iron Hands list that just takes real good care of their old stuff and still has it kicking around  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Can you put the Mortis Contemptor in a Pod? Those guns are only 24" and they'll do quite a bit better against rear armor usually. Against Infantry you'll do the same but it would be better if they're castling. Also, having three pods would allow you to bring in 2 on turn 1. <br /> <br /> If the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> are just camping, you don't need 10. 6 would be fine. Even if you wanted them to have bonding knives so they don't run off, they'll still be a pretty penny cheaper.<br /> Personal preference thing, skip the stims on the Riptide.<br /> <br /> And this isn't a personal preference thing, it's a bad luck thing :p my tactical terminators always die. If I could run them without them dying in one turn (unless they have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>) I would, cause I love em, but they just always die.<br /> <br /> You could throw an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span> in the Broadside unit for an even 200 pts and to help with those silly fliers. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(657);'>HYMP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> always do better for me against flyers than the Riptide but that's probably just a luck thing too.<br /> <br /> And I always see the Master of the Forge with a Conversion Beamer. Especially on a bike. Give him Artificer Armor and a Storm Shield and he can run around the back of the board by himself sniping things with his hand mounted Demolisher Cannon (you gotta admit the profiles are pretty similar)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Haha yes dude, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> list! Fluff wise it's a little bit off... Sons of Horus being  pretty much dead n all... <br /> <br /> good shout on the drop pod, I've tried to fit that in there but i just can't seem to squeeze the points in- what would you suggest taking out?<br /> <br /> The main thing that has proven useless for me also was the tactical terms; godamnit! I got some real nice MKIV termies as well! them alongside the chapter master come in at 430 or so points- i feel i could better spend that...<br /> <br /> Riptdie <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span> is for anti troops reserves more than flyers- I love broadsides but i don't want to blow 5-15 points on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span> which i highly doubt they'll get round to using- not many people take flyers and to be quite honest, having too much interceptor totally ruins the fun. I wish i could give him a storm shield on the Master of the forge but unless you gotta spare 50 points to lend me i'll have to pass.<br /> <br /> I played with this list against a wave serpent spam( 6 wave serpents, 3 fire prisms) yesterday on the scouring primary, emperors will secondly and pulled out a draw - i had primary, he had secondary + both with warlord. ( we don't play first blood) It was an absolutely massacre but an awesome game!<br /> <br /> the only difference in my list was i swapped out the sicaran, tech marine in exchange for 2 tetras and a chapter master with light sabre. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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