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				<title>Salamanders 1850 2nd try</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Vulkan He'stan<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> <br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> terminators<br /> Land Raider Redeemer (vulkan with them)<br /> <br /> TROOPS:<br /> <br /> 5 Scouts<br /> camo cloaks, all with sniper rifles<br /> <br /> 10 marines in rhino<br /> multi melta, flamer, combi flamer<br /> <br /> 10 marines in rhino<br /> multi melta, flamer, combi flamer<br /> <br /> 10 marines in rhino<br /> Multi melta, flamer, combi flamer<br /> <br /> 5 marines<br /> missile launcher with flakk ( mans quad gun)<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK:<br /> <br /> 3 speeders<br /> Heavy flamer, multi melta on all<br /> <br /> HEAVY:<br /> <br /> Thunderfire cannon<br /> <br /> FORTIFICATION:<br /> <br /> Aegis line w/ quad gun<br /> <br /> What you think? This is what i came up with as i dont own drop pods<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:36:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JJ 40K]]></author>
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				<title>Salamanders 1850 2nd try</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The only problem I have with it is the 5 guys w/flack manning the quad.<br /> <br /> For the same points, they could switch from a tactical squad to a devastator squad.  This would trade the ability to score for the signum for a BS5 missile shot.<br /> <br /> Alternatively, have the snipers man the quad and take the points spend on those guys to buy one of the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> tanks.<br /> <br /> I might trick one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads out full melta<br /> <br /> Adding the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> might also be a good idea<br /> <br /> While I’m a fan of the classic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> speeder, compelling arguments can be made to specialize to 2xHF and 2xMM ones.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(274);'>YMMV</span>.<br /> <br /> But overall it looks like a solid, playable, fluffy and fun Salamanders list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:08:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Salamanders 1850 2nd try</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think Vulkan's ability, or Chapter Tactics work on vehicles anymore, like the speeders, right? I believe it says "with Chapter Tactics: Salamanders" now? If so, I don't think the speeders are too great anymore, just my opinion.<br /> <br /> Have you considered trying out Legion of the Damned? With Vulkan already in the list, some twin-linked ignores cover melta could be pretty awesome. I think a min squad of them comes in around 155 points (melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-melta). I also think you should switch out the 5-man tactical for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with signum and flak missile and man the quad gun. If the unit's already shooting at an air target, the flak missiles (while expensive) kinda jive.<br /> <br /> I still like Vulkan in the land raider, even though all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies aren't wielding master-crafted hammers <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> (that was so awesome last codex!)<br /> <br /> I've never been too impressed by sniper scouts, they never seem to hit enough, and for enemies that frequently get pinned, I find flamers just waste them before they are a threat anyway.<br /> <br /> One other thing I'd mention is maybe consider a combi-plasma on the tactical sergeants, since it's master-crafted. 2 shots with a good chance of avoiding 'gets hot!' is pretty nice. I'd also drop the multi-meltas to free up more points here-and-there to add a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span>.<br /> <br /> Maybe something like this?<br /> <br /> <br /> Vulkan<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad - rhino, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad - rhino, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad - rhino, combi-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, flamer<br /> Scouts - bolters (outflank)<br /> <br /> Terminators - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Land Raider Redeemer<br /> Legion of the Damned - melta, combi-melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> - flak missile (on quad gun)<br /> <br /> Aegis w/quad gun<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:33:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ xTHExCLINCHERx]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Salamanders 1850 2nd try</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like the list, but Drop Pods are really what make Salamanders shine.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:57:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Feasible]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Salamanders 1850 2nd try</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/584243/6622240.page"><b>xTHExCLINCHERx wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't think Vulkan's ability, or Chapter Tactics work on vehicles anymore, like the speeders, right? I believe it says "with Chapter Tactics: Salamanders" now? If so, I don't think the speeders are too great anymore, just my opinion.<br /> <br /> Have you considered trying out Legion of the Damned? With Vulkan already in the list, some twin-linked ignores cover melta could be pretty awesome. I think a min squad of them comes in around 155 points (melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, combi-melta). I also think you should switch out the 5-man tactical for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad with signum and flak missile and man the quad gun. If the unit's already shooting at an air target, the flak missiles (while expensive) kinda jive.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Vulkans ability affects the detachment so everything in your army has the rule. <br /> <br /> I have to agree legion of the damn are beasts but i like the setup <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Meltagun Combi grav.<br /> <br /> As for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> list I dont like the speeders but thats really anyone that takes them, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> i wouldnt run something AV10 w/ 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span>. <br /> <br /> I like to run 2 dreads w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Heavy Flamers drop pod and 2 Assault squads w/ 2 flamers and a sergeant with a melta bomb in a drop pod(for free) and throwing vulkan in with one of those drop pods and a stormtalon for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>.<br /> <br /> Remember this is a hobbiest game you can always convert drop pods and depending on where you play you can proxy some aswell to see if they are even something you might be interested in investing.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:41:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nettik189]]></author>
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