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				<title>1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So having recently been practicing for a local tournament I've gotten very tired of using space marine power units such as Tigurius, Grav Centurions, and Thundernators. Maybe I'm a masochist but I keep on wanting to do well with Raven Guard as Raven Guard and not as Ultras or Scars. That being said I'm painfully aware of how bad Shrike is in 6th and how little he synergizes with the army as a whole or even his own chapter tactics so I'm going to be using Korvydae in this list, predicating the entire thing on my opponent allowing me to run forgeworld.<br /> <br /> I'd prefer to keep to the theme of fast and stealthy as much as possible suggestion wise, but other than that I'm pretty open.<br /> <br /> korvydae<br /> <br /> librarian<br /> level 2<br /> melta bomb<br /> auspex<br /> <br /> 5 scouts<br /> camo<br /> melta bomb<br /> 5 combat weapons<br /> <br /> 5 scouts<br /> camo<br /> melta bomb<br /> 5 combat weapons<br /> -&gt; land speeder storm<br /> <br /> 5 scouts<br /> 5 sniper rifles<br /> camo<br /> <br /> 10 tactical marines<br /> melta gun<br /> veteran<br /> powerfist<br /> -&gt; drop pod<br /> locator beacon<br /> <br /> 5 vanguard veterans<br /> jump packs<br /> 5 double lightning claws<br /> 1 melta bomb<br /> <br /> 5 assault marines<br /> 2 flamers<br /> veteran<br /> melta bomb<br /> power sword<br /> <br /> 5 assault marines<br /> 2 flamers<br /> veteran<br /> melta bomb<br /> power sword<br /> <br /> 5 devastators<br /> 4 lascannons<br /> <br /> storm talon<br /> typhoon launcher<br /> <br /> <br /> So there's my list, a few things were taken just to fill in some points because I ran out of ideas. Preferably I'd get s second Storm for my scouts but I'm a bit low on cash right now. That being said I quite like 6 troops with 35 scoring bodies on the table<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:44:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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				<title>1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd take a combi-melta on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> sergeant instead of the power fist.<br /> <br /> As for the rest, depends on how much 'fluff' you want to lose to be more competitive. Assault marines, Vanguard and Scouts arn't really the most potent choices in the space marine codex. It does help that the assault marines are now scoring at least.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:25:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ turgon868]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I really want to stay away from centurions and thunder hammers, other wise feel free to make suggestions]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2014 15:52:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I am really interested in seeing how you do. My second Army is Raven Guard Space Marines. Thought about a Stormraven or Stormtalon? Very fluffy!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:54:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ doomdreamer]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e525f7151e138cbcc4746dcd49f767ae.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586375/6662166.page"><b>doomdreamer wrote:</b></a><br/>I am really interested in seeing how you do. My second Army is Raven Guard Space Marines. Thought about a Stormraven or Stormtalon? Very fluffy!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks for the wishes and  I actually do have a storm talon in my list  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> . I also own a storm raven but I'm not too sure what I'd cut out to get it in]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:47:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So I had my first game, but I slightly modified my list just to make it more effective and because I'm bad at math.<br /> <br /> korvydae <br /> <br /> 5 scouts <br /> camo <br /> 5 combat weapons <br /> <br /> 5 scouts <br /> camo <br /> 5 combat weapons <br /> -&gt; land speeder storm <br /> <br /> 5 scouts <br /> 5 sniper rifles <br /> camo <br /> <br /> 10 tactical marines <br /> melta gun <br /> veteran <br /> powerfist <br /> -&gt; drop pod <br /> locator beacon <br /> <br /> 5 vanguard veterans <br /> jump packs <br /> 5 double lightning claws <br /> <br /> 5 assault marines <br /> 2 flamers<br /> power sword <br /> <br /> 5 assault marines <br /> 2 flamers <br /> power sword <br /> <br /> 5 devastators <br /> 2 lascannons <br /> <br /> 5 devastators <br /> 2 lascannons<br /> <br /> storm talon <br /> typhoon launcher <br /> <br /> I played this vs my friends count as ultramarine and I managed a major victory. However things to note was we had 5 objectives, one in each corner and one in the center, as well as a ton of line of site blocking terrain and choke points. These effectively cut any long range fire power in half for effectiveness. Another thing to note was that he failed some very inopportune 2+ saves and I got a lucky failed morale test that repositioned me to charge the unit holding the middle objective. Also the game ended on turn 5...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:49:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I ran a 1000 point Raven Guard game against Chaos Space Marine bike army. I won, barely. But here is my 'rough' list.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Commander Shrike<br /> <br /> Troop<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad 10 marines, plasma and missile + Rhino<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad 5 marines, flamer, teleport homer + Rhino<br /> <br /> Scout Team 5, Sniper Missle Camo<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Base Regular Termies! (They got ported in)<br /> <br /> Base Dreadnought<br /> <br /> Fast<br /> Assault Squad w/ Jet Packs and Power Maul (hung out with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>)<br /> <br /> I learned that the Dread was a great enemy focus point and died up the Obliterators in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span><br /> The Termies were not very Helpful<br /> Murder Swords are jerks<br /> <br /> Assault Squad should morph into Vanguard Vets<br /> <br /> Need drop pod for Dreadnought.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:23:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ doomdreamer]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey there !! <br /> <br /> I'm trying to help my best friend to improve / adjust his list of Raven Guard these days so I though I 'd drop my thoughts for evaluation . Note that my friend wants to stay as fluffy as possible (just like you if I remember correctly as I read a lot of threads nowadays  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ) so here's what I have come up with :<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>: <br /> Shadow Captain Korvydae   155<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 10x SternGuard Veteran Squad w/ 4x Combi-Melta in Drop Pod   305  (2nd , 3rd or 4th round near enemy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(652);'>Teq</span> or Vehicles)<br /> Ironclad Dreadnought w/ Power Fist with built in Heavy Flamer + Chain Fist with built in Meltagun + Ironclad Assault Launchers in Drop Pod  225 (in a ruin for 3+ cover in first round)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 10x Assault Squad w/ 2x Flamers + Vet Sergeant with 2x Lighting Claws   230   (Korvydae joins them)  (going fast for enemy's troops)<br /> 10x Assault Squad w/ 2x Flamers + Vet Sergeant with Lighting Claw and Power Fist + Melta bombs 245  (going fast for enemy's troops)<br /> 5x Scout Squad  w/ 4x Sniper Rifles + 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> + 5x Camo Cloacks  84 (objective grabbers with 3+ cover or 2+ if 1st round or going to ground) <br /> 5x Scout Squad  w/ 4x Sniper Rifles + 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> + 5x Camo Cloacks  84 (objective grabbers with 3+ cover or 2+ if 1st round or going to ground) <br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Devastator Squad w/ 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> + Flakk 170  (anti-armor and anti-air from 48")<br /> <br /> This list comes at 1498 points <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">  .. So what do you think ? Can he be semi-competitive like this? Maybe not against my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> but against other lists? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 5 Apr 2014 10:22:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spectral]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Fluffy Raven Guard </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Personally I'm not a fan of flakk missiles or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span> on scouts so I'd axe them in favor of freeing points up. The sternguard will function the same way without a full 10 man, since there's only 4 combi weapons so we can cut those down too. Finally the second assault marine seargent doesn't need a powerfist since he has melta bombs already; 25 pts is too much for just a bonus attack.<br /> <br /> If we take all of that out your friend has 205 points to spend. I'd invest in a stormtalon with skyhammer missiles for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> at 125, and then split the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad up into two separate squads with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span> each. This way he can maintain <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> fire, while also getting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 5 on two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span>, having ablative wounds on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>, and forcing the opponent to kill 2 squads to take care of them completely. With the last 10 points I'd take a locator beacon on the ironclad pod; this will pressure the opponent to kill it before sternguard and potentially assault marines drop down around it on later turns.<br /> <br /> This is just a fine tuning of the list, but I'm not sure how competitive it will be since I don't know how strong the lists in his area are ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 7 Apr 2014 04:56:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skimask Mohawk]]></author>
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