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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all,<br /> <br /> i would like some feedback on the following lists, i am undecided which one to use:<br /> <br /> List A:<br /> <br /> Belial - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> Librarian - Terminator Armour, Melta Bombs<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Knight squad<br /> <br /> Vindicator <br /> <br /> Vindicator<br /> <br /> 1500 pts spot on<br /> <br /> List B:<br /> <br /> Belial - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> Ezekial<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator Squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span><br /> <br /> Tactical Squad, Flamer and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <br /> Vindicator - Siege shield<br /> <br /> Vindicator - Siege shield<br /> <br /> 1,490 pts in total<br /> <br /> Look forward to your feedback]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Which units would you plan on deep-striking in list A? You've got 6 potentials with only the Vindi's obviously on the board at the start, so at least 2 more would need to start on the board, I'm guessing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> squad and Plasma Cannon squad?<br /> <br /> With list B, what is Ezekiel adding to the list? He can't deep strike, so would end up hanging around with the tactical squad which I can't see as the best use of his abilities.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Quanar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ apologies, should have stated tactics, hurridly typed the post whilst my boss wasn't watching!<br /> <br /> Yes i was going to deep strike the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> squad. I am also undecided whether or not to take out the librarian from list A and replace with a scout squad with sniper rifles, camo cloaks and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> so they can just sit on an objective.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:22:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AngryHoneyBadger28]]></author>
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				<title>Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I would deep strike the flamer and knights, keeping the plasma and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> back to dakka and camp a home objective. If you can, spring for an assault cannon over the plasma cannon, it is better against most targets. <br /> <br /> I agree about dropping zeke for a termi armor libby in list b. <br /> <br /> With spare points, you can always take more chainfists, or additional storm bolters on the vindis for extra weapon destroyed insurance. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:26:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dr. Serling]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't take the libbi anymore. my scouts have been the winning unit my last three games for capturing the necessary objective. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Libbi has underperformed. Prescience is unnecessary in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> list.  The PFG is also less necessary in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> squad. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:51:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<title>Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly.....<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> in landraiders are the best way to go]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:54:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586935/6670328.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/>Honestly.....<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> in landraiders are the best way to go</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> how do you run it? Trip Raiders and 3x5x termies plus Belial is already about 1700 points.  It just doesn't have the damage output needed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:05:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<title>Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/24b50949850e4aa6ccaca5fc7a88492f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586935/6670355.page"><b>Deuce11 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f118f01f1c14d0ae9591b82f4f736543.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586935/6670328.page"><b>namiel wrote:</b></a><br/>Honestly.....<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> in landraiders are the best way to go</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> how do you run it? Trip Raiders and 3x5x termies plus Belial is already about 1700 points.  It just doesn't have the damage output needed.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> But its very survivable.  I would usually run 3 landraiders at 1850 but at 1500 i would go with 2 and leave a small footprint on the board and just use up that armor 14 and 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>hp</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:10:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ namiel]]></author>
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				<title>Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I faced a trip raider <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> list with min assault units, priests, 3x dakka preds and mephiston.  My <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> took out the preds and a few marines but really could not touch much else. Mephiston chomped right through Belial but I knew that was going to happen.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>FYI</span> I run 3x5xDW Termies, Belial, 10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> in Rhino, 5x Scouts, 2xTLAC Dreads, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> Squad with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Attack Bike and Techmarine on bike w/ PFG.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> @<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>: I agree w/ Dr. Sterling, above]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:49:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<title>Deathwing 1500pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Okay so had a bit of revision of a list whilst stuck in a traffic jam today. Revised list as follows:<br /> <br /> Belial - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> terminator squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span>, 1xTH/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Terminator squad - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span><br /> <br /> Tactical squad - Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, Rhino<br /> <br /> Scout squad - camo cloaks, sniper rifle & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> <br /> Vindicator - siege shield, HKM<br /> <br /> Vindicator - siege shield, HKM<br /> <br /> Comes to 1,490 pts. <br /> <br /> Am I correct in thinking you can take more than one HKM in an army?<br /> <br /> Tactics would be to deep strike Belial with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> terminator squad whilst the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span> squad footslog and Dakka from the back. Scout squad will sit and hold an objective for as long as possible and the tactical squad will aim to take a mid field objective and hold it with the rhino acting as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> blocker where possible. The vindicators will sit back field and rain down strength 10 hell from the left and right side of the table preferably in cover. <br /> <br /> I'll be playing chaos so I the HKM's will be popped first turn aimed at my friends two maulerfiends.<br /> <br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Mar 2014 21:36:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AngryHoneyBadger28]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/586935/6671528.page"><b>AngryHoneyBadger28 wrote:</b></a><br/>Am I correct in thinking you can take more than one HKM in an army?</div></blockquote>Correct, it's a limit of one per vehicle.<br /> <br /> That list looks good, though I'd consider the last 10 points as a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> upgrade in the other two squads, or both in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> unit perhaps, placed towards the highest concentration of plasma in the enemy army.<br /> <br /> You've got enough units to deep strike with all your terminators if the situation favours it.<br /> <br /> Hunter-killers are not fantastic, but on Vindicators can be viable as you won't always guarantee being in range T1.<br /> <br /> No anti-air, but I can't see enough expendibles to add a quad-gun, so you'll have to play the ground game or hope for lucky snap-shots.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:22:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Quanar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks quanar.<br /> <br /> I've dropped one HKM and used the 10 pts from that and the remaining 10pts to add Flakk missiles to the tact squad and the scout squad for abit of anti air]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Mar 2014 06:26:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AngryHoneyBadger28]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The first one is harder-hitting than the second. If you are going to do Deathwing, do Deathwing. Greenwing just gets in the way half the time. I like the Belial Librarian combo.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:47:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cuchulain]]></author>
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