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Also, lets keep talk topic-related. Please no debating how many marines exist per chapter. This is purely to discuss Rhino crewman. Thanks in advance!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677873.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677873.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677879.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677879.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677888.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677943.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677978.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677978.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
Spetulhu wrote:
On the other hand Rhinos are blessed with a not-too-shabby Machine Spirit. Those that don't trust Chapter serfs and don't have reserve marines to spare may well have the Rhino set to follow the Sergeant's commands either directly or within parameters he set before jumping out.

hmm, true that.
if we can keep this on rhino talk, this could be a nice thread.
*unlikely*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677984.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677985.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6677985.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
'Course, my Chapter is an Imperial Fists Successor, so I can simply say It's not a Codex-compliant Chapter and call it a day.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678046.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678046.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
 Lord-Captain Cepinari wrote:
This drove me nuts quite a few times, but I finally managed to find my way out by going with "Chapters are 1000 Marines actually means Chapters have 1000 Marines in the Tactical, Devastator, and Assault Squads; plus command staff, Scouts, Veterans and Vehicle operators it's actually a lot more."

'Course, my Chapter is an Imperial Fists Successor, so I can simply say It's not a Codex-compliant Chapter and call it a day.


IIRC, they actually don't count scouts as space marines, and last I checked the Ultramarines organization chart including vehicles adds up to a neat 1,000 Astartes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678369.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678487.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
My two cents]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678490.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678490.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen. -> Rhino = 1 Marine

But Razorback = 2 Marines Most variants need 2 marines.
Only the Rhino got the self repair at 6+ . But the fluff says the decision of the fate of the basic hull isn't automatically "rhino" , so funnily if they make a predator instead of a basic rhino it can't repair itself ....

The Land Raiders use a advanced machine spirit and don't need a crew. The option to add a "machine spirit" to act like a Land Raider was there in C: BT but isn't available anymore. A "autopilot" is imaginable for the standard rhino, a bit more like a simple minded servitor. Programmed " goto " functions and self defense maybe.

The Rhino isn't a "Space Marine only" vehicle, IST and SoB could drive them too. All you need someone to drive.
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 1hadhq wrote:
But Razorback = 2 Marines Most variants need 2 marines.


The 4e Marine Codex lists the Razorback as being crewed with one Marine as well.
Vindicators, Predators, and Whirlwinds have two.
Land Raiders have three. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678521.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678565.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
Poly Ranger wrote:
So how about inquisition? Their acolytes are bs3 and their rhinos are bs4...

Servitors slaved to guns or computer-targeting systems?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678578.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678578.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
Probably Arbites or Stormtrooper crews.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678604.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678604.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
Animus wrote:
 1hadhq wrote:
But Razorback = 2 Marines Most variants need 2 marines.


The 4e Marine Codex lists the Razorback as being crewed with one Marine as well.
Vindicators, Predators, and Whirlwinds have two.
Land Raiders have three.


Some Razorbacks don't look like 1 marine is enough.....
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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Servitors are normally BS2.

Probably Arbites or Stormtrooper crews.

Difference between gun servitors and average servitors IIRC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678643.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
 1hadhq wrote:
Some Razorbacks don't look like 1 marine is enough.....


Unless the Marine is capable of driving from there. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678664.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678664.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678671.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6678864.page GMT Rhino crewmen. HQ-tier.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679004.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679004.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
Note, this is all from a book that was written during 4ed so much may have changed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679155.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
 marv335 wrote:
Classicly, Rhinos were driven by marines as a punishment, and they were hard wired into them.


Source?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679189.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679189.page GMT Rhino crewmen. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6679213.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
Fluff is of course =/= Rules because these vehicles can move while the entire squad is outside.


But it could easily vary from chapter to chapter. Heck, they could have Initiates do all the driving and ferry their elder Brothers into the fight.

My chapter's doctrine has each Company having its own dedicated drivers who aren't part of the individual squads but make up the Moter Pool which is a subsection of the Armory.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680095.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
Source?


It's reaaaaly old White Dwarf material that then got reprinted in a Compendium, which I actually own!. As in, from back when the first Predator Kits came out in the late 80's. Even the Compendium is circa 1989.

"Some crewmen, as a punishment for insubordination, are hardwired into their vehicles and only released after an exceptional show of valor".

But obviously that's woefully out of date.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680341.page GMT Rhino crewmen.
 marv335 wrote:
Classicly, Rhinos were driven by marines as a punishment, and they were hard wired into them.


I find that hard to believe. I have never heard of that type of punishment. Death oaths are usually the one and only way for a marine to restore his honour.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Source?


It's reaaaaly old White Dwarf material that then got reprinted in a Compendium, which I actually own!. As in, from back when the first Predator Kits came out in the late 80's. Even the Compendium is circa 1989.

"Some crewmen, as a punishment for insubordination, are hardwired into their vehicles and only released after an exceptional show of valor".

But obviously that's woefully out of date.


Ah, this would be before my time then.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680375.page GMT Rhino crewmen. lol ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680406.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
 AegisGrimm wrote:

"Some crewmen, as a punishment for insubordination, are hardwired into their vehicles and only released after an exceptional show of valor"..


Some crewman, salient point that.

Supposedly Iron Hands and Iron Warriors both use cybernetic linkage, I think it was in the 3rd edition Predator Index Astartes article - the Imperial Fists wanted to include a treatise on dealing with said vehicles in the Codex Astartes but it was vetoed by the Iron Hands. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6680484.page GMT Re:Rhino crewmen.
Dragon_Cultist wrote:
According to imperial Armour 2 from Forge World, the rino has only a driver as crew, with a ten man squad nine stay in the back and the sergeant uses the stormbolter.


This is true, and has always been true. So, OP, when you say "what you personally think," and not only is it not correct but it is unfounded and you haven't bothered to think very hard, how is anything else you assert or posit going to seem plausible, even to you, unless you change the way you think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6681166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/587334/6681166.page GMT