<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702354.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702368.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle LOS. Charging is not shooting, so you cannot use FPs. Therefore an embarked unit cannot declare a charge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702376.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702376.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702378.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702378.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


but you may not declare a charge with a unit that isn't.on the table. how are you determining line of sight? how does overwatch work?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702387.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


First, you can only disembark in the Movement phase.
Second, even if you did have permission to disembark, you need LOS, which the embarked unit does not have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702390.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


Disembarking is done during your movement phase, there is no rule under transports granting permission to assault out of it if embarked.

so yes you have to disembark in the movement phase if you'd like to attempt an assault.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702394.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702394.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
sirlynchmob wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


Disembarking is done during your movement phase, there is no rule under transports granting permission to assault out of it if embarked.

so yes you have to disembark in the movement phase if you'd like to attempt an assault.


Really too bad.

In regards to the LOS question, I usually put at least one model in the trukk bed. So since it is open-topped, and there is a model in LOS, that would seem to get around it. But Even the wording for assault vehicle doesn't seem to support the idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702405.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
 Icculus wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


Disembarking is done during your movement phase, there is no rule under transports granting permission to assault out of it if embarked.

so yes you have to disembark in the movement phase if you'd like to attempt an assault.


Really too bad.

In regards to the LOS question, I usually put at least one model in the trukk bed. So since it is open-topped, and there is a model in LOS, that would seem to get around it. But Even the wording for assault vehicle doesn't seem to support the idea.


really not how any of that works at all. does everyone let you get away with that where you play?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702412.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle Where in the Rules does it state one is legally allowed to do that?

Even Chariots, which are designed to have a 'rider,' don't have permission to do what you are describing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702416.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702416.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
JinxDragon wrote:
Icculus,
Where in the Rules does it state one is legally allowed to do that?

Even Chariots, which are designed to have a 'rider,' don't have permission to do what you are describing.


If it said it somewhere I couldn't find it. If I found it as explicitly described, I wouldn't bring it up here, I would just use it as common rule. But it was an idea, and I wanted to talk over the rule-sets regarding it. Perhaps I had missed something.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702442.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702442.page GMT Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
 Icculus wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
 Icculus wrote:
Zimko wrote:
How would you assault from within a transport?


Same way you disembark, except you end up base-to-base with an enemy unit, and then start fighting.


Disembarking is done during your movement phase, there is no rule under transports granting permission to assault out of it if embarked.

so yes you have to disembark in the movement phase if you'd like to attempt an assault.


Really too bad.

In regards to the LOS question, I usually put at least one model in the trukk bed. So since it is open-topped, and there is a model in LOS, that would seem to get around it. But Even the wording for assault vehicle doesn't seem to support the idea.


the one man riding on the transport is usually done for pg 118. to make clear what unit is in what transport. the model is not really there though, he's embarked with the unit. it is a such a common practice that it can be misleading to make it seem there is a rule telling you to do so.

You can accomplish the same thing by painting squad markings on the transport that match the embarked unit's markings. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702499.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702499.page GMT Re:Do you have to disembark to charge from an Assault vehicle
So, I suppose that to be MOST accurate, I should say that it's possible for a unit to assault without disembarking in their movement phase. Disembarking from a wrecked tank is still disembarking.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/588675/6702531.page GMT