AK-47 wrote:
At a 1000 points I think the chapter master is a bit too much, he eats up more than a quarter of your list. I'd go with Khan and get another Thunder Fire Cannon.
The attack bikes are fine I guess, although I'd take speeders instead, but that might be just preference.

edit: And yeah you totally want some weaponry other than the heavy bolter on the stormtalon, the 15pt missiles are the #1 choice.

AK-47 wrote:
Wrote up a list I would play if I had enough bikes (which sadly I don't :( )

Chapter Tactics: White Scars

HQ: Khan + Moondrakkan

Command Squad (5): Apothecary, 5x grav gun, bikes

Troops:
Bikers (5) 2x grav
Bikers (5) 2x grav
Scouts (5) 4x combat blade, shotgun, Landspeeder, Heavy flamer

Fast: Stormtalon, Skyhammer missiles

Heavy: Thunder Fire Cannon

Any beatstick hq your opponent can come up with, which Khan can't beat to death, kill it with grav!

 mathaius90 wrote:

AK-47 wrote:
Wrote up a list I would play if I had enough bikes (which sadly I don't :( )

Chapter Tactics: White Scars

HQ: Khan + Moondrakkan

Command Squad (5): Apothecary, 5x grav gun, bikes

Troops:
Bikers (5) 2x grav
Bikers (5) 2x grav
Scouts (5) 4x combat blade, shotgun, Landspeeder, Heavy flamer

Fast: Stormtalon, Skyhammer missiles

Heavy: Thunder Fire Cannon

Any beatstick hq your opponent can come up with, which Khan can't beat to death, kill it with grav!

Holy cow I forgot the existence of command squad!They shoot like hell! Very nice list!
BTW i made the list in BattleScribe and it gave me 955 points for that list...

a combat squad can take special weapons??? o.o

 mathaius90 wrote:

a combat squad can take special weapons??? o.o

I don't think I understood your question...do you mean the command squad or the bike squad? in either case:
"Any Veteran may take items from the Melee Weapons and/or Ranged Weapons lists." under the command squad entry.
"Up to two Space Marine Bikers may each take one item from the Special Weapons list." under the bike squad entry.

EDIT: unfortunately the Apothecary has been FAQ'd and he can't take a grav gun,so there are 4 grav boys and a bolt pistol+chainsword boy.

 Ricedaddy wrote:
As a DA player I salivate over those grav guns. Would really have come in handy against some Nurgle terminators I didn't have the firepower to reliably bring down.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
What do you lose when charging into cover?

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
I currently have fun using this list for whitescars:

Khan

5 man bike squad - 2x grav gun, 1x combi-grav, melta bomb
5 man bike squad - 2x grav gun, 1x combi-grav, melta bomb
5 man bike squad - 2x grav gun, 1x combi-grav, melta bomb
5 man bike squad - 2x meltagun, 1x combi-melta, melta bomb
5 man bike squad - 2x meltagun, 1x combi-melta, melta bomb
5 man bike squad - 2x flamer, melta bomb

Bike are the best thing in your army, so why skimp on them. 30 bikes in 6 scoring units is quite difficult for many armies, especially with scout.
The special weapons cover all bases. Melta bombs might be overkill, so can be taken out and the points used elsewhere.

(If your local players are using the inquisitors codex to bring servo skulls, then khan can be swapped out for a captain with a bike and 40 points of wargrear, as scout will be of less worth.

This list is 1000 points btw.

Kramanal wrote:
I like your list, its a bit light on antitank for my liking

 mathaius90 wrote:
A question: if I charge a vehicle does the HoW resolve agains rear armor?

 Big Blind Bill wrote:

Kramanal wrote:
I like your list, its a bit light on antitank for my liking

I'm glad you like it. But really? I'm surprised, sometimes I feel like it has too much anti tank. I mean you have 2 meltagun squads for the really tough things, and gravguns have the potential to hurt any vehicle in the game. Everyone has krak grenades + a str 5 HoW hit in cc as well, which can easily wear down vehicles with AV10 rear armour.

I'll probably take the melta bombs out in the future and do something else with the points. More wargear for a captain perhaps, or another bike for the flamer squad who usually ride with khan.

I guess this depends on what is in your meta though.

I will also see what the loss of veteran on the sergeant does to my cc rolls.

Whitescars imo can get by well enough with their str5 HoW hits, without relying on sergeants with extra attacks.

As I said I usually play 1750+ pts. Common army I face is an armoured battle group:
Command Russ
6 Russ in 3 squadrons
armoured fist command squad
3 armoured fist squads
7 main battle tanks and 4 armoured transports.

 brochtree wrote:
Kramanal your bikes cream my armored list easy most of the time.

 brochtree wrote:
hehe well i can fit roughtly 5 TL psykers and two telepathy ones. then just take three Wryverns. and a bunch of plasma/ autocannon vets.