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				<description><![CDATA[ There is a 1500 tournament coming up here in a little over a month and I am putting together a list to try to be competitive in this tourny.  here is what I have come up with.  Any suggestions to make this list more lethal would be greatly accepted!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Coteaz<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 2x acolyte w/ plasma gun, 1 psyker in psybolt razorback<br /> <br /> 2x acolyte w/ plasma gun, 1 psyker in psybolt razorback<br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> 10x Grey Knight Interceptor Squad.  2 psycannons.  1 hammer, justicar with halberd. psybolt ammo<br /> <br /> Heavy support<br /> 5x Purgation squad w/ 4 psycannons.  Justicar with halberd.<br /> <br /> Dreadknight w/ sword, heavy incinerator, and personal teleporter<br /> <br /> Astra Militarum<br /> Pask in a punisher leman russ with a lascannon hull mounted<br /> Executioner leman russ w/ plasma sponsons and heavy bolter hull mounted<br /> <br /> squad of veterans with no upgrades. <br /> <br /> coteaz typically rolls divination and the 2 psykers roll telepathy for psychic shriek and possibility of invisibility. <br /> <br /> The tournament area I play in is a VERY competitive community with some players who are among the best in the U.S.<br /> Looking for tweaks.  Can't really think of a work around for the veterans and they feel very out of place in this list.  <br /> The idea with this list is to bring a lot of very threatening units to the table and be a fairly durable army while still being able to use a bit of mobility.  this is a rendition of my 1850 list which i dropped a stormraven and a chimera, and turned a  10x purifier squad with 4 psycannons into a 5x purgation squad with the 4 psycannons.<br /> <br /> How can I make this list more lethal and harder to deal with?  <br /> <br />   <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:32:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>tournament list.  Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points.  advice please.  </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You seem to have a mix of strategies. You have fast units ideal for jumping forward and dealing damage (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> and Interceptors), gunline units that are not very mobile (purgation squad, veterans, russes) and medium ranged units that are mildly mobile (razorbacks with plasma guns). What kind of missions are you expecting to play? If you're looking to play with objectives then you're going to be hurting for mobile scorers. <br /> <br /> Purgations are not worthwhile anymore since they lost their ability to ignore <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> you should probably replace them with more acolytes or a psybolt dreadnought.<br /> <br /> The veterans need a transport or should be removed for something else. Maybe just an old-fashioned <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> blob to bubblewrap your russes?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:34:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zimko]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Maybe fit in a Wyvern or two somewhere? Those are pretty <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> at the moment. Also you don't have a whole lot of dedicated ranged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> that can deal with AV14, you might have problems with RussRush. Maybe fit in a Vendetta instead of Wyverns if you think its important. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:37:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ultimentra]]></author>
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				<title>tournament list.  Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points.  advice please.  </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f4243a80fcf24ba8e7b93d9eef5ec32c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/601442/6952669.page"><b>ultimentra wrote:</b></a><br/>Maybe fit in a Wyvern or two somewhere? Those are pretty <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> at the moment. Also you don't have a whole lot of dedicated ranged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> that can deal with AV14, you might have problems with RussRush. Maybe fit in a Vendetta instead of Wyverns if you think its important. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> With the limited points I don't know where to squeeze in the wyverns.  Also not too big of a fan of them.  My <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gks</span> don't struggle to often with cover.  Don't own the vendetta either.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/601442/6952652.page"><b>Zimko wrote:</b></a><br/>You seem to have a mix of strategies. You have fast units ideal for jumping forward and dealing damage (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(514);'>DK</span> and Interceptors), gunline units that are not very mobile (purgation squad, veterans, russes) and medium ranged units that are mildly mobile (razorbacks with plasma guns). What kind of missions are you expecting to play? If you're looking to play with objectives then you're going to be hurting for mobile scorers. <br /> <br /> Purgations are not worthwhile anymore since they lost their ability to ignore <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> you should probably replace them with more acolytes or a psybolt dreadnought.<br /> <br /> The veterans need a transport or should be removed for something else. Maybe just an old-fashioned <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> blob to bubblewrap your russes?<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I am just a big fan of Psycannons.  The more Psycannons the better. <br /> <br /> The dreadnought are you talking auto cannon or assault cannon?  <br /> <br /> Trying to think of more uses for the acolytes. I am out of rhino models.  I could make the squads a little bigger.  3 plasma acolytes and psyker.  What to do with the rest.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 02:40:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Smotejob]]></author>
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				<title>Re:tournament list.  Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points.  advice please.  </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Dreadnoughts with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span> autocannons and psybolt ammo are a mainstay in my army. With 7th they don't go pop quite as easily either <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:31:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lsjreadingpa]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok updated list... <br /> <br /> Coteaz<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> 10x purifiers 4 psycannon<br /> 5x purifiers 2 psycannon<br /> <br /> Troops <br /> 2 plasma aco with psyker in psyback<br /> 2 plasma aco with psyker in psyback<br /> <br /> Heavy <br /> Psydread with autocannons<br /> Psydread with autocannons<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span><br /> Pask in punisher lascannon<br /> Executioner with plasma sponsons<br /> <br /> Veterans in chimera<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 15:27:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Smotejob]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That looks better. HOWEVER, the Purifiers need a ride. Rhinos/Chimeras work best--it allows both their Cleansing Flame and Psycannons to go off. T1 Cruise forward, maybe Flat Out, T2 Combat forward.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:30:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Elric Greywolf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ in order to make room for transports i had to clear one of the purifiers. this gave me a condrum.  I could go this way with the list.<br /> <br /> coteaz<br /> <br /> 5x purifiers w/2 psycannon in rhino. knight with halberd <br /> 5x purifiers w/2 psycannon in rhino. knight with halberd <br /> <br /> 3x plasma acolyte 1x psyker in psyback<br /> 3x plasma acolyte 1x psyker in psyback<br /> <br /> psyfleman dreadnought<br /> psyfleman dreadnought<br /> <br /> pask in punisher<br /> executioner <br /> <br /> veterans in a chimera w/ 2 meltaguns<br /> <br /> <br /> with 12 points leftover.  maybe for weapon upgrades for purifiers<br /> <br /> issue now is... <br /> <br /> Where do i put coteaz? how do i get pask his prescience<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:07:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Smotejob]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Coteaz should be able to cast prescience out of the chimera hatch, right?<br /> <br /> Otherwise just hide him between any two vehicles/ruins.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:28:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SkrawnyNob]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I believe the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span>'d it that psykers can't cast from within vehicles any more. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:54:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spartan089]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Psykers can only cast witchfires out of vehicles (Assuming a firepoint on the vehicle). Because these attacks happen in the psychic phase, you can also shoot from the firepoint in the shooting phase, which is nice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Jun 2014 03:17:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hashbeth]]></author>
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