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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/20 17:32:25
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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There is a 1500 tournament coming up here in a little over a month and I am putting together a list to try to be competitive in this tourny. here is what I have come up with. Any suggestions to make this list more lethal would be greatly accepted!
HQ
Coteaz
Troops
2x acolyte w/ plasma gun, 1 psyker in psybolt razorback
2x acolyte w/ plasma gun, 1 psyker in psybolt razorback
Fast attack
10x Grey Knight Interceptor Squad. 2 psycannons. 1 hammer, justicar with halberd. psybolt ammo
Heavy support
5x Purgation squad w/ 4 psycannons. Justicar with halberd.
Dreadknight w/ sword, heavy incinerator, and personal teleporter
Astra Militarum
Pask in a punisher leman russ with a lascannon hull mounted
Executioner leman russ w/ plasma sponsons and heavy bolter hull mounted
squad of veterans with no upgrades.
coteaz typically rolls divination and the 2 psykers roll telepathy for psychic shriek and possibility of invisibility.
The tournament area I play in is a VERY competitive community with some players who are among the best in the U.S.
Looking for tweaks. Can't really think of a work around for the veterans and they feel very out of place in this list.
The idea with this list is to bring a lot of very threatening units to the table and be a fairly durable army while still being able to use a bit of mobility. this is a rendition of my 1850 list which i dropped a stormraven and a chimera, and turned a 10x purifier squad with 4 psycannons into a 5x purgation squad with the 4 psycannons.
How can I make this list more lethal and harder to deal with?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/20 18:34:03
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Rampaging Carnifex
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You seem to have a mix of strategies. You have fast units ideal for jumping forward and dealing damage (DK and Interceptors), gunline units that are not very mobile (purgation squad, veterans, russes) and medium ranged units that are mildly mobile (razorbacks with plasma guns). What kind of missions are you expecting to play? If you're looking to play with objectives then you're going to be hurting for mobile scorers.
Purgations are not worthwhile anymore since they lost their ability to ignore LOS. IMO you should probably replace them with more acolytes or a psybolt dreadnought.
The veterans need a transport or should be removed for something else. Maybe just an old-fashioned IG blob to bubblewrap your russes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/20 18:37:53
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Maybe fit in a Wyvern or two somewhere? Those are pretty OP at the moment. Also you don't have a whole lot of dedicated ranged AT that can deal with AV14, you might have problems with RussRush. Maybe fit in a Vendetta instead of Wyverns if you think its important.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/21 02:40:16
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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ultimentra wrote:Maybe fit in a Wyvern or two somewhere? Those are pretty OP at the moment. Also you don't have a whole lot of dedicated ranged AT that can deal with AV14, you might have problems with RussRush. Maybe fit in a Vendetta instead of Wyverns if you think its important.
With the limited points I don't know where to squeeze in the wyverns. Also not too big of a fan of them. My gks don't struggle to often with cover. Don't own the vendetta either. Automatically Appended Next Post: Zimko wrote:You seem to have a mix of strategies. You have fast units ideal for jumping forward and dealing damage ( DK and Interceptors), gunline units that are not very mobile (purgation squad, veterans, russes) and medium ranged units that are mildly mobile (razorbacks with plasma guns). What kind of missions are you expecting to play? If you're looking to play with objectives then you're going to be hurting for mobile scorers.
Purgations are not worthwhile anymore since they lost their ability to ignore LOS. IMO you should probably replace them with more acolytes or a psybolt dreadnought.
The veterans need a transport or should be removed for something else. Maybe just an old-fashioned IG blob to bubblewrap your russes?
I am just a big fan of Psycannons. The more Psycannons the better.
The dreadnought are you talking auto cannon or assault cannon?
Trying to think of more uses for the acolytes. I am out of rhino models. I could make the squads a little bigger. 3 plasma acolytes and psyker. What to do with the rest.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/21 03:01:58
"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/21 14:31:12
Subject: Re:tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dreadnoughts with 2 tl autocannons and psybolt ammo are a mainstay in my army. With 7th they don't go pop quite as easily either
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/21 15:27:55
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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Ok updated list...
Coteaz
Elite
10x purifiers 4 psycannon
5x purifiers 2 psycannon
Troops
2 plasma aco with psyker in psyback
2 plasma aco with psyker in psyback
Heavy
Psydread with autocannons
Psydread with autocannons
AM
Pask in punisher lascannon
Executioner with plasma sponsons
Veterans in chimera
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/21 17:30:52
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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That looks better. HOWEVER, the Purifiers need a ride. Rhinos/Chimeras work best--it allows both their Cleansing Flame and Psycannons to go off. T1 Cruise forward, maybe Flat Out, T2 Combat forward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/21 19:07:22
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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in order to make room for transports i had to clear one of the purifiers. this gave me a condrum. I could go this way with the list.
coteaz
5x purifiers w/2 psycannon in rhino. knight with halberd
5x purifiers w/2 psycannon in rhino. knight with halberd
3x plasma acolyte 1x psyker in psyback
3x plasma acolyte 1x psyker in psyback
psyfleman dreadnought
psyfleman dreadnought
pask in punisher
executioner
veterans in a chimera w/ 2 meltaguns
with 12 points leftover. maybe for weapon upgrades for purifiers
issue now is...
Where do i put coteaz? how do i get pask his prescience
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"Glory in our suffering, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint"
-Paul of Tarsus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/23 02:28:59
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Coteaz should be able to cast prescience out of the chimera hatch, right?
Otherwise just hide him between any two vehicles/ruins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/23 02:54:58
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I believe the faq'd it that psykers can't cast from within vehicles any more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/06/23 03:17:15
Subject: tournament list. Grey knights with Astra Militarum Ally. 1500points. advice please.
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Psykers can only cast witchfires out of vehicles (Assuming a firepoint on the vehicle). Because these attacks happen in the psychic phase, you can also shoot from the firepoint in the shooting phase, which is nice.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/06/23 03:17:36
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