<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
so ill start this rodeo off with my own opinions! First off I have to say I love this model it looks like a Stormtalon and a Caestus Assault Ram had one heckva night in the manufactorum storage closet, but that aside I love the concept! Now as a few of you may know from my other threads I am not a fan of SW and play Salamanders myself....that being said I will no doubt be picking a couple of these up to run them as the transport variant for my Firedrakes.(Salamanders 1st Company) so that being said I hope the casted SW iconography isnt too bad and will hopefully leave room for conversion for other armies. I definatley see a poor mans Caestus Ram in this kit...as well as kit bashing two of these with a Storm Raven to make it somewhat resemble the actual Caestus, which by the way is "Sold Out" on FW...hmmm suspicious, I dont doubt that though it is for the Space Puppies right now at least...but with nerd rage of the community and GWs money grabing antics we should see this model available to all Space Marine armies within the year that i am sure of! but that aside it looks like a decent flyer with a plethora of weapons on both variants and has AV 12 all around as seen in the WD.

so thats my little rant on this new kit what do you think about it? could it be a new king of the sky or is it just a new toy GW is throwing at us to make us want to play SW]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050147.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050147.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf IMO its ugly as feth with almost nothing that could improve it

I understand this be 40k future tech where the god of physics was eaten by a ctan shard or something but at one point it just needs to stop :/


I think the transport one would be cooler with a heavily reinforced front ram as atm it looks kinda weak.

The gun one i think would be infinitely better if you took out the gunner and added a long barreled icewolf gun thing on the top (like the thunderhawk) and the cockpit where the gun is now.

me 2 cents ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050175.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050175.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf SM when the DA fliers were kept DA-only?

Role-wise, it looks like an upgunned Stormraven that trades additional infantry carrying capacity for not being able to carry Dreadnoughts. AKA a flying Land Raider. I like the look myself, and will strongly consider one as funds allow for my SW company, built as the gunship.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050176.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf GK and BA....and we all know what happened there]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050200.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
 LoH wrote:
So, why would this be available to all SM when the DA fliers were kept DA-only?

Role-wise, it looks like an upgunned Stormraven that trades additional infantry carrying capacity for not being able to carry Dreadnoughts. AKA a flying Land Raider. I like the look myself, and will strongly consider one as funds allow for my SW company, built as the gunship.


Stormravens were powerful models in 5th Ed, and sold a lot of items. Hence, it made sense to roll it out to C:SM, with a larger playerbase than either GK or BA (possibly combimed). The assumption being it would sell well. Which it likely did.

The DA flyers had poor rules and were outshone by RW and DW, and so did not sell many units. To GW this is a clear red flag that it won't sell well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050336.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050336.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050351.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050351.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf 40k have anti-grav thingy. Landspeeders and Monoliths fly around without need of wings.

I love it. I just received a mail that my storm claw box set shipped and instead of turning my wolves into chaos I will keep them as wolves and get one of these .... for science!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050368.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
I get the anti-grav flight thing. That part doesn’t bother me. I get the assault ram look. Which I think is cool. But the model just seems out of balance. The tiny wings are just comical. This thing stays up via technology, not aerodynamics. Those little control surfaces are not going to meaningfully affect it’s flight. It should either totally embrace the flying brick, or get some wings that can at least pretend to work. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050405.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050423.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
If we are going for flight via raw power, it might be interesting to see how it looks if we replace those tiny little forward wings with the engine pods off of a stomtalon. With that much thrust on this thing, some of which can be canted upward, I can see it flying and hovering.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050434.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf SW would fly short of a Thunderhawk/Caestus, which are also ugly as sin.

It has a certain brutal simplicity that I appreciate.

Frankly I like the look better than every other power armor flyer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050436.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
 Nevelon wrote:
I wonder what it would look like with the stromraven’s wings on?

I get the anti-grav flight thing. That part doesn’t bother me. I get the assault ram look. Which I think is cool. But the model just seems out of balance. The tiny wings are just comical. This thing stays up via technology, not aerodynamics. Those little control surfaces are not going to meaningfully affect it’s flight. It should either totally embrace the flying brick, or get some wings that can at least pretend to work.


Agreed. The wings are truly what make it ugly as sin to me. However, without them it would still need a bit of remodeling. A space shuttle was described as a flying brick...this thing really is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050455.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
As an atmospheric vehicle, im laughing.

And those missiles... One small mistake in the flying pattern, and that thing will explode in his own hull o.O]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7050487.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf GW site it looks like the only part that would need conversion to NOT be space Wolf is the large wolf head on either side of the prow...81$ even though its a hefty price i can see why yeah...im getting one for my Salamanders it will look nice over a lava base ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7066737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7066737.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf

Aside from all that I kinda like it. Has a very brutal aesthetic.
I kinda imagine it plummeting, nose down, from the sky (not dissimilar from a Drop Pod). Engines engage to reduce speed. Grav-thrusters engage as the surface nears. Then the engines maneuver the vehicle into a more suitable, horizontal-ish, angle before it finally hits the dirt with a dramatic thud and opens it's doors to the party contained within ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7069753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7069753.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf .

p.s. I still want them to make the tanks with a carpert around them like d-day had to make them float lol fething dumb design but just awesom "who came up with that idea anyways lol"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7070022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7070022.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7070058.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7070058.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7072539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7072539.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
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I'll just repost what I reposted in that other thread:

I'll just repost what I posted on the previous thread, to me, if it actually behaved like an assault ram, I'd probably be fine with it.

The Stormtalon looks stupid because, to me, it looks like an underwater vehicle. It looks like a fat little fish more than it looks like an aircraft. Canis Wolfborn's TW looks like a friggen pomeranian. No matter how much you tell me it's a giant vicious wolf, it looks like a pomeranian. The Thunderbolt and Marauder could not fly, or if they could they could only fly at very low speeds and extremely uncomfortably for the pilots, but they have the proportions of a WW2 plane so to me, they look kinda cool. The Thunderhawk and Stormeagle push the limits of wacky proportions (to me) but they still manage to pull it off and look cool. The Stormraven pushes those limits too far and looks stupid (for some reason Forge World typically manages to get better proportioned vehicles to my eye than GW proper).

We all have different limits and no amount of "space magic" can take something we perceive as stupid as suddenly looking awesome. To me, the Storm-wolfy-mc-wolf looks like a front heavy brick crossed with an irish terrier with tiny little wings that serve no purpose. It looks like something that might have a place being fired from one ship at another ship as a form of boarding and it looks maybe like something you'd fire at a giant futuristic fortification to do as much damage as possible (like a brick would do...) and then unleash some troops.

As an aircraft that's actually supposed to "fly" above a battlefield, making strafing runs and what not, it just looks too ill suited to the task which makes it look ugly as hell to me.

Yeah, sure, as a seaborne or spaceborne landing craft it looks fine (even if it still does look like a fething irish terrier), it just doesn't work for me as an aerial combat vehicle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7072559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7072559.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf 40k vehicles but I still think they should be aerodynamic and capable of flight or gliding so as to survive grounding/crashes.


With a box shape like that, it should drop like a stone if sufficiently damaged by AA fire.

I like the concept of the big gun and the troop capacity, I like the ram concept also. But without lift in the wings it just doesn't make sense to me as an aircraft or even a drop craft.

Those engines have to swivel/rotate/ pivot.

Those wings have to it in the air.

That undercarriage has to take damage, re-entry and have evenly distributed anti-grav plates.

This should be like an Osprey carrying an amphibious assault boat.

Instead it's 4 Leer Jet engines carrying a Cargo container, with the wings of a Gyrocopter/ or microlight.

If this was more of a dynamic drop craft/ transport, then on top of wings and engines worthy of the ability, I'd expect gun locations and Hard points that reflected this. A range of fire that protects disembarking troops and suppresses 360 degrees, or at least 270 forward and -180 on the sides.

Or go Space above and beyond with it, and drop the shipping container out of the vehicle and use it as a support location like an AEGIS defence line.


I'm not a huge fan of SW, I get the aesthetic, but it just doesn't attract me. This box is somewhat laughable. Even fluff wise this gives such a punch to the laws of physics that it just doesn't deserve it. It's not awesome enough or over kill enough to deserve being this "wreckless" and ugly.


I thought Centurions and Lord of Skulls were some of the worst designs, this takes the biscuit. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7073263.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7073263.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf
Its basically a Jaws of the world wolf gun if you think about it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075158.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075158.page GMT Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf GW, it would make for an excellent murder weapon if it was made out resin, No one would suspect it.

Though personally the entire idea behind it is kind of just bleh.

It look likes someone doesn't know a thing about aerodynamics. At least the current fliers looked like they put some thought into aerodynamics.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075164.page GMT Re:Thoughts and opinions on the Stormfang/Stormwolf GW's Space Marines +1 theme.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606750/7075165.page GMT