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Well, two new SW flyers will be available next time.
Not sure about their stats.
But do you like their look? Look too cubic for me.

Space Marine vehivles and ships always have that look. It's very blocky, bulky and doesn't really look like it should be effective.

But it is. Like a supersonic sledgehammer.

These gunships/transports descend on your world, your firepower bounces off of its hull plating and huge, super-fast giants jump out of the front of it to tear up your battleline.

It's all very Space Marine, and I think it works fine with their current aesthetic

It may be my internal aversion to anything wolfish, but I think it's the ugliest flier GW produced. It looks like fusion of the worst elements of previous fliers combined. It could have looked more like stormtalon.

Isn't there already a 38 page thread about these in another sub forum?

Toofast wrote:
Isn't there already a 38 page thread about these in another sub forum?

Here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1110/605383.page#7059492

But it is in the rumor's board and will eventually be locked when the boxes will come out.

Love it, big fan of the aesthetics. Also, cheap Caestus, or just use it as per the rules. The guns seem pretty potent in both loadouts.

It's not really a cheap Caestus when 2 of these are the same cost as a Caestus.

I like 'em, especially the stormwolf. I'll most likely end up looting one and turning it into an ork blitza-bommer.

As for their stats, they are in WDW.

BS 4 F12 S12 R12 HP3, 215 points. Flyer, Hover, Transport, can carry 16 models. Fast attack.

The stormwolf comes with a twin-linked helfrost cannon, a twin-linked lascannon and two twin-linked heavy bolters that can be replaced with a skyhammer missile launcher (free) or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20 points.

It has ceramite plating, Power of the Machine Spirit and is an Assault Vehicle. The helfrost cannon has two profiles: dispersed and focused. Dispersed is 24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blast; while focused is 24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1 Helfrost.

Helfrost: When a model suffers one or more unsaved Wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each Wound suffered or be removed from play.

The skyhammer missile launcher is 60" S7 AP4 Heavy 3.

The stormfang has the same profile as the stormwolf, is also a flyer, can hover and has a transport capacity of 6. It costs 220 points and is a heavy support unit.

It is armed with a helfrost destructor, two twin-linked heavy bolters and two stormstrike missiles. Also has ceramite plating. It has Power of the Machine Spirit. It can replace its twin-linked heavy bolters with skyhammer missile launcher (free) or twin-linked multi-meltas (20 pts.) and it can replace the stormstrike missiles with a twin-linked lascannon for 15 points.

The helfrost destructor also has two profiles. Dispersed is 24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blast. Focused is 24" S8 AP1, Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance. The stormstrike missiles are 72" S8 AP2 Heavy 1, Concussive, One Use Only.

Overall, they seem pretty strong, but not overly so for their points cost. Helfrost seems like a really nasty rule against multi-wound targets like nobs and centurions.

I looked over the WDW for a while today and was reasonably happy with the rules. Pretty powerful but also pretty expensive.

Model wise, I don't like it, for many reasons that have been beaten to death in the rumours thread.

How about the fact that 99% of leagues and tournaments don't allow FW?

They look like Sucide gliders

The opposite of elegant and streamlined.

What about space wolves screams "elegant and streamlined" to you?

Toofast wrote:
What about space wolves screams "elegant and streamlined" to you?

Indeed, beer and being frosty and clumsy comes to my mind.

Y'know, I really like the Stormwolf, but not the other variant. The Stormwolf brings to mind something of a Higgins Boat IN SPACE--and I kinda like that, especially seeing as it's looking like the Land Raider Crusader of flyers. The turret seems kinda odd, I would've probably liked it better without it or with it being some sort of rear-facing anti-air weapon, but other than that I love the space-lander look the vehicle has. I could see one of these careening out of orbit to disgorge a pack of terminators all over a bunker complex.

The Stormfang, however, doesn't look like a proper gunship to me. It looks too much like the lander it shares a kit with!

 Likan Wolfsheim wrote:
Y'know, I really like the Stormwolf, but not the other variant. The Stormwolf brings to mind something of a Higgins Boat IN SPACE--and I kinda like that, especially seeing as it's looking like the Land Raider Crusader of flyers. The turret seems kinda odd, I would've probably liked it better without it or with it being some sort of rear-facing anti-air weapon, but other than that I love the space-lander look the vehicle has. I could see one of these careening out of orbit to disgorge a pack of terminators all over a bunker complex.

The Stormfang, however, doesn't look like a proper gunship to me. It looks too much like the lander it shares a kit with!

I totally agree with you. I love the stormwolf. Its looks perfect for its role. The stormfang on the other hand... I suppose it just doesn't look like the flying cannon it's supposed to.

The rumours about the Stormwolf being a dedicated transport for Space Wolves really makes me want to get a few, especially for Terminators, 8 in the box and a good tank killer afterwards

Toofast wrote:
How about the fact that 99% of leagues and tournaments don't allow FW?

Who and what is this a reply to..?

Looks ridiculous to me, both from aesthetics (a flying shoebox) and price ($81? Are they fething kidding?). A couple of weeks ago I was excited to look at buying Stormclaw, and since then it's just vanished. Gak like that doesn't help.

ImAGeek wrote:

Toofast wrote:
How about the fact that 99% of leagues and tournaments don't allow FW?

Who and what is this a reply to..?

Welcome to Dakka, where every single thread is an opportunity to have the FW legality argument yet again. But snark aside, he was referring to the Caestus discussion.

They look like shoes to me. However the fast attack variant look like it could be worth the points as it in the fast attack slot so you could still take long fangs and predators.

I think it looks like the worst aspects of the Caetus and the Stormtalon, which were both horrible-looking models, rolled into a single miniature. But obviously all SW players will have to have at least 2 because the rules are so OP.

Hated Stormtalon and the other one - refuse to buy one- I like these

 Avatrass wrote:
It may be my internal aversion to anything wolfish, but I think it's the ugliest flier GW produced. It looks like fusion of the worst elements of previous fliers combined. It could have looked more like stormtalon.

+1. But you can forge a great narrative with that centerpiece of junk.

That flyer was originally built by Mek Specialist Garlen Tygrol who tried to build his very own Viper (Mork II) out of an old cockpit, a couple spare engines and the spoiler he once salvaged from a truck wreck... he told his grots he needed a frame, and was just appalled when he saw what they'd found... a dumpster bin. He proceded to thouroughly kick their asses...
"What am I going to do with that piece of crap? * "
"Hey... Seems to fit... somehow. Why not?"
Specialist Tygrol just proceded to convert the flyer to a mini-landa, and called her the StormOrk (Mork I).

During the Great War, the StormOrk was looted by Space Wolves, who found that flyer to be wonderful and quite elegant (we're talking about Space Wolves...) and named her "FluffyPuppy". They procedeed to build more of these highly advanced ships (remember, they're just Space Wolves...), and found the original name engraved in the ship's hull.

- Sto... Stor... Stormo...
- We should ask the Wolf-Sergent. That reading thing is good for Ultramarines...
- You're right, Wolf-Brother.
- I think it's an A. Stormak.
- There's an... errr... R, that's it? Yeah, StormArk!
- Nice job, Wolf-Sergent. Maybe welf should give her a true Wolf-Name, if we really want to integrate Wolf-Squadrons of these Wolf-Flyers so they can carry the Wolf-Units of our Wolf-Company.
- What about StormArkWolf? WolfStormArk ?

Three hours later, the StormWolf was born.

I was on board until I saw that they come equipped with freeze guns, because well, Space Wolves are totally like vikings who are associated with snow, right?

Ugh. My god, at least they could have made it some sort of "Heavy Grav Gun", or something, to at least keep a *little* distance from space-fantasy.

There should be a special rule where you have to yell "Everybody Freeze" in your best Ahhhnold voice when you fire it.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I was on board until I saw that they come equipped with freeze guns, because well, Space Wolves are totally like vikings who are associated with snow, right?

Ugh.

There should be a special rule where you have to yell "Everybody Freeze" in your best Ahhhnold voice when you fire it.

Could've been worse.

They could've been Canis Wolf missiles.

You do have me there. That is actually a little surprising that they missed that chance, seeing as this model debuts alongside a special character called "Murderfang".

They should have had it equipped with a catapult that fires smaller catapults, which in turn fire wolves.

Given the Imperium is sci-fi ww2 aesthetics, I don't mind the ships chunkiness, it's basically a water landing craft:


The freeze/cold stuff is annoying and "Murderfang" bollocks is just ridiculous, but I was never a SW fan. If these flyers are similar sized to Caestus and the wolf crud is easy to avoid or shave off I might just pick some up from a US discounter.

That being said, it does look undoubtedly "Astartes". They nailed that aesthetic just fine.

I'm just not sure why the Space Wolves don't just use Stormravens for the exact same roles as the Stormfang, other than for the direct purpose of it giving Space Wolves a huge $80 model like all the other "races" have, as that's the latest GW goal.