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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:14:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Using 30k units in 40k games</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>Can you use 30k legion units in normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>30k</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Other than that: everything goes with friends if they agree to it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:17:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sigvatr]]></author>
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				<title>Using 30k units in 40k games</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/143e30eaa2b1f83bf89eee1359542fc8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052177.page"><b>Sigvatr wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>Can you use 30k legion units in normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>30k</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Other than that: everything goes with friends if they agree to it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks for not answering my question directly.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> I want to know if it's legal (meaning friends wouldn't have to agree).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:18:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Answer is no.<br /> <br /> Which is why he was referring to agreement.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:23:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BlackTalos]]></author>
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				<title>Using 30k units in 40k games</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052182.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/143e30eaa2b1f83bf89eee1359542fc8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052177.page"><b>Sigvatr wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>Can you use 30k legion units in normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/>30k</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052171.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> games?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Other than that: everything goes with friends if they agree to it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks for not answering my question directly.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> I want to know if it's legal (meaning friends wouldn't have to agree).</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Honestly that's a pretty bad way to look at it. Everything is technically something your friends would need to agree with as, in fairness they don't have to play you.<br /> <br /> In any case it is not expressly "Legal". The only thing which addresses it is the Forgeworld <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span>: Betrayal which can be found <a href="http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/B/Betrayal_FAQ_Errata_v.2.pdf" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The last question addresses it.<br /> <br /> The Horus Heresy rules are built and balanced around each other. There will be cases where the Legiones Astartes or Mechanicum lists will be both over and underpowered against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> armies. It is really something you should discuss with your opponents, particularly concerning some of the designer notes on that particular question about allow for larger Xenos squads or coming up with a specific narrative.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:25:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Voodoo_Chile]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052182.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Thanks for not answering my question directly.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> I want to know if it's legal (meaning friends wouldn't have to agree).</div></blockquote><br /> Since the rulebook says you have to agree to <font color='white'>everything</font> when it comes to building your armies, why would this be any different?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:17:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ghaz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, 30k armies are not legal in normal games of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>.<br /> <br /> You would need permission from your opponents before hand or permission from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> if you're going to an Event.<br /> <br /> Which sucks as I have an 1850 army of Adeptus Mechanicum just twiddling their giant badass robot thumbs <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:26:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bloodhorror]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1f0d06fcf26ebda5981fb875c3deecc7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052182.page"><b>Random Dude wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> Thanks for not answering my question directly.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> I want to know if it's legal (meaning friends wouldn't have to agree).</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> "Legal" is what your friends agree with. If all of you say "Cool, why not?", then try it. If you look for any rule that would say that it's allowed and one of your friends disagrees...would you walk up his face, waving the page around saying "YOU MUST PLAY WITH ME <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>'S LEEEEEEGAAAL!"? I don't think so <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Rules-wise, it obviously isn't legal. 30k. In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. There's quite a time gap in between.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:55:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sigvatr]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e5b685654f0a8806ceeac954325f6856.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/606858/7052354.page"><b>Bloodhorror wrote:</b></a><br/>No, 30k armies are not legal in normal games of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>.<br /> <br /> You would need permission from your opponents before hand or permission from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> if you're going to an Event.<br /> <br /> Which sucks as I have an 1850 army of Adeptus Mechanicum just twiddling their giant badass robot thumbs <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You can make a pretty effective, unbound army with counts as for all those models.<br /> <br /> -Matt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:03:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HawaiiMatt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isn't there fluff of cruisers spending millennia in the warp, only to pop out like it was minutes instead of centuries?  I likely wouldn't have a problem playing against your (or anyone else's) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> army.]]></description>
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