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Mainly as a house rule, and for friendly games, but what do you guys think a Bike upgrade would cost a veteran guardsman unit? Or, upgrading Rough Riders to veteran stats?

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305236.page GMT Re:Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers sv. Twin-linked heavy stubbers as the bike's primary weapon with the option to swap it for melta/plasma guns, flamers and grenade launchers. Riders have laspistols/CCW stock.

That's kind of boring and "standard", though. There should be something to "Guard" it up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305257.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers SM bike is +7 but doesn't increase armour save).


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Only 2 spec upgrades though!


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Its already specialized for guard as they can take orders. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305383.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers HQs on bikes now...

I didn't think about the heavy stubber though, man that's going to be allot of dakka! Sure as hell nothing to sneeze at when you see a vet squad with 10 H.Stubbers, 3 meltaguns, a demo charge, and meltabombs coming at you!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305432.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers ccw + pistol.


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and remember - if you are shooting a spec you cant shoot the bikes weapons.
so it would be 7 heavy stubbers + 3 melta guns.


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also probably better that the hs aren't tl at 14ppm.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305603.page GMT Re:Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers
 BlaxicanX wrote:
I wouldn't mind facing off against some biker vets. 14ppm, become bike infantry with +1 bump to toughness and a 4+sv. Twin-linked heavy stubbers as the bike's primary weapon with the option to swap it for melta/plasma guns, flamers and grenade launchers. Riders have laspistols/CCW stock.

That's kind of boring and "standard", though. There should be something to "Guard" it up.


Well, you could have them still carry vox-casters to reroll orders, or maybe have a Commissar be able to join them in his own bike. Or, if you have the modding skills for it, give one of the bikes a little sidecar and allow them to create a Heavy Weapon Biker Team. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7305844.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers AP decrease should be on top. That's 30 str 4 ap 6 shots at BS 4 with a good 3' range!

All for just 14ppm, that and given their enhanced Toughness and speed and armor(?) costs more then a stock 10man Devastator unit. I'm not that great at point balancing, but that seems a bit much?

Maybe not, but it's something that bothers me a little.
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 Guardsmen Bob wrote:
Yeah, I'd have to agree on the non-twin linked Heavy stubber, because that's 30 shots right there. However, I think maybe a range or AP decrease should be on top. That's 30 str 4 ap 6 shots at BS 4 with a good 3' range!

All for just 14ppm, that and given their enhanced Toughness and speed and armor(?) costs more then a stock 10man Devastator unit. I'm not that great at point balancing, but that seems a bit much?

Maybe not, but it's something that bothers me a little.


Yea, BS4 heavy stubbers is too good for 14 points. Heavy bolter HWT cost 25 points without BS4 or T4 or relentless or 12" move. I'd keep them closer to vets in function and options. Maybe give them a grenade launcher for their base weapon? Keep the above changes but price them at 15 ppm. That way it's 6 points for the vet + 5 for the gun + 4 for the bike. Let them take doctrines, 3 special weapons options, maybe swap out guns for power mauls at not cost.

This way they're more of a fast moving close assault/anti vehicle/swt unit, and less of a godly HWT replacement.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7313518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7313518.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7317384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/620492/7317384.page GMT Point Check! Imperial Guard Veteran Bikers
 Guardsmen Bob wrote:
What about a twin-linked autogun for the bike mounted weapon?
Well that was my thought. Space Marines have bolters, and their bikes have twin-linked bolters. Why should an IG bike get a Heavy Stubber? It would make sense for an IG Attack Bike, perhaps.

Twin-linked S3 AP- would be a bit... meh though, wouldn't it? Theoretically, the bike could provide the power and support for a larger capacity las-weapon, however, so what about Twin-linked Hellguns?

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