<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "how advanced are the mechanicus?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366601.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366608.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366608.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? STC to do that... from the latest Space Marine codex.

They're very good at following instructions, but their actual understanding of technology is barely ahead of the Orks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366614.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? Unless you're reading something by Graham McNeil.
Then they're essentially wizards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366819.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? 40k behind Necrons and Eldar. The technology of the DAoT is in many ways only a minor step below those two races, who themselves have technology of godlike power.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366832.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366832.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 EmpNortonII wrote:
For six thousand years, they couldn't figure out how to solder some anti-aircraft missiles and attach a primitive radar system to a Rhino. They needed an STC to do that... from the latest Space Marine codex.

They're very good at following instructions, but their actual understanding of technology is barely ahead of the Orks.


I am not sure if it's not that they are capable of doing so, but aren't allowed to do so. They probably have all these amazing ideas flying around at their weekly brainstorming sessions of what they could do or what they could improve upon, but with the religious aspect of the Mechanicus they need to find the STC blueprints to be able to actually act on anything.

If they weren't so hindered by their religion they could be quite creative. But the restrictions do serve a purpose. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366851.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366886.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7366886.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Scorpionov wrote:
as the title says just how advanced are these guys [...] ?
That's complicated, and probably not the right question.
The Mechanicus relies on STC printouts.
Do they have an STC printout of a land speeder anti-grav engine? Yes. They can produce a land speeder anti-grav engine.
Do they have an STC printout of an 11'' inch toaster? No. They only have designs for 9'' and 12'' toasters, so they can only produce 9'' and 12'' toasters. A member of the Adeptus Mechanicus would only be able to produce an 11'' toaster if they combine existing STC printouts in such a way that the 11'' version fits together perfectly - such perfection is taken to be proof that the Omnissiah meant for the STC printouts to be combined in such a way, it's just that the Mechanicus hasn't yet found any STC printouts mentioning this connection. Or a heretek could just claim that it's all STC compliant.

So, it's not "how advanced are these guys?", it's "how advanced are their STC printouts?". And the answer is "in some areas very, in other areas not at all". Just because they've found multiple instruction guides to producing melta weapons, giant laser cannons, anti-grav units, etc, doesn't mean they're advanced in other ways.

Note: I'm exaggerating with regards to toasters. I'm assuming that there are some machines (including toasters) that are so common and so alike that the Mechanicus have just gone "yeah, their similarities suggest that they are based on STC printouts, so let's continue to use them even if we haven't found those printouts".

[...] many secrets do they keep from the imperium?
Lots. Forgeworlds jealously guard secrets from each other, so would happily keep everything secret from the Imperium if they think they can get away with it.
There are also going to be things that are too difficult to produce to justify sharing widely. As an example, just look at the BFG Adeptus Mechanicus pdf. It mentions that before M37 it was very hard to produce long-range lances. This meant that the Mechanicus reserved such costly weapons for themselves, rather than sharing them with the regular Imperial Navy.

EDIT: Yes, there is a little bit of original research going on... but only a little, only very slowly, and it's only done by a tiny number of tech-priests (who are often viewed as dangerously radical).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367199.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
The titans are insanely advanced, even a war hound is a work of decades of the finest tech priest's.

Just because they make 10,000 leman Russ, does not mean they cannot build titans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367227.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? The Mechanicum does have some highly advanced technology (like the Titans) but most of the good stuff is hidden away. Most of their greatest creations and advanced technology was made over ten thousand years ago (like the arks), though some can still be produced (like the Titans).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367403.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? 40k answers.

they all rely on STC, none of them do.
they never innovate, they are innovating all the time
progress is heresy, progress is the only thing.

think of current day religions (western) they all claim to be the right path and come from pretty much the same place, but people interprete (sp?) them all wildy, yet they are all wrong...and right, depends on the viewpoint.

so the add mech is massively advanced technologically and massively backward technologically, its both and each of its followers use its tenets in different ways, shades of grey buddy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7367429.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
In the Yarrick novel (the one where he's young and such) after defeating a heretical warmachine, the mechanicus tears it apart to learn its secrets before destroying it.

This stuff does along with much of the current fluff implies that the mechanicum itself does have a solid understanding of how their technology and the technology of their foes works, even if they don't know how to replicate it.

I recall for example there is a fluff story of a mechanicus team reverse engineering a gauss blaster, which they get to work, but it requires an absurd amount of power to operate which raises more questions about necrons than it answers.

The admech are also able to innovate within some unmentioned guidelines since Knights, Titans, Power/Terminator armour and Imperial Robots are not STC designs. If I had to guess I would say the admech learns from STCs and attempts to use them as a basis to both innovate from and use for large-scale manufacture. Which would explain the quest for knowledge as being not a quest for the STCs themselves, but as a quest for the guidelines that they are allowed to innovate along and also finding a STC means that someone has done all the R&D and all that needs to happen is production.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368660.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368660.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?

I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368667.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368667.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
And armies of cyborgs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7368672.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Psienesis wrote:
They manage to maintain a system that tears open a hole in reality, into which some people walk, which then moves them through a literal Hell, before depositing them in some other location back in the starting dimension thousands of kilometers away.
I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.


Shokk attakk gun?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369237.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?

It's ork portable and damn cool. plus Spinny Gun of Death


IOM tech is often very very advanced.

IOM's ability to UNDERSTAND this tech is very,very variable, as most of it was not invented in the last few millenia, and invention and innovation are often considered heresy. It really depends on whose fluff you read.

Ask a Techpriest in some versions to fix a jammed bolter and he'll start by rubbing scented oil all over it while whispering sweet nothings to it.

Eventually he may get around to clearing the fouled mechanism, but as a sidenote to appeasing the bolter's Machine-spirit.

Other versions have them (or the Emperor) laying hands on a broken machine and it just miraculously repairing itself...

They have rituals that work, because they are the instruction manual, in illuminated text, with added prayers and songs between each step.

Like anything else in 40k, it's up to you to decide what's really going on, as several different versions or interactions are happening at the same time, and contradict each other.


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 Psienesis wrote:
They manage to maintain a system that tears open a hole in reality, into which some people walk, which then moves them through a literal Hell, before depositing them in some other location back in the starting dimension thousands of kilometers away.


I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.



DE have this too, only theirs is about the size of a suppository

IOM ones are huge IIRC.


Orks have Tellyportas too.

Not sure if Nids or Tau use teleportation, off hand, but everyone else seems to have a way to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369262.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369293.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
High ranking adepts might be geniuses, but virtually the entire mechanicus are just monks following ritual.

But yeah Graham McNeil basically forgot the whole thematic point of the mechanicus, mindless technology worship and dogma.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369300.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Bronzefists42 wrote:


But yeah Graham McNeil basically forgot the whole thematic point of the mechanicus, mindless technology worship and dogma.


Basically, stuff hasn't changed much from how common people treat complicated technology now. As a programmist i often get a request for "A magical button that i press and everything becomes good".
In 40k AdMech often has to deal with technological wonders so advanced that they don't even understand the basic phisics that makes it possible cause the knowledge was lost. And they do the only logical thing to do with it - precicely follow instructions and try to investigate how it works somehow. On the scale of 10k years it's become some sort of religion where one follows instructions without questioning. I mean the bible says: "Don't kill. Cause god says killing is bad". It doesn't say: "Don't kill. Cause violence leads to even more violence and you might get the situation worse than it had been". ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369319.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369319.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Psienesis wrote:
They manage to maintain a system that tears open a hole in reality, into which some people walk, which then moves them through a literal Hell, before depositing them in some other location back in the starting dimension thousands of kilometers away.


I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.


On the other end, even the Space Marines have night vision gear inferior to what the US Army has. The US Army... in real life.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369451.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
The AdMech, at its higher levels, have a considerable body of knowledge to work with, and have an excellent understanding of their technology (Mars and Ryza in particular, though Forgeworld's vary in aptitude), though they are change-adverse; just because they know how to build "lost" secrets of the Dark Age of Technology doesn't mean they want to go getting all crazy with totally new projects. The Macharius Battletank; a cheaper, mass-producible "light" Baneblade took a lifetime of R&D and 2 centuries of testing before it was accepted into service, for instance.

However, the AdMech's position of power is dependent upon controlling the flow of valuable technology; they control just about everything more complicated than a Leman Russ outside of Marine chapters, and using effectively ignorant layman to run everything through religious orthodoxy allows them to maintain their control, power and relevance. If the rank and file techpriests had a comprehensive knowledge of the Imperium's frankly stupendous pieces of equipment, keeping that control would doubtlessly be more difficult; the Imperium needs the AdMech, but I don't think they'd balk at the idea of disestablishing the whole thing if they had the means to produce advanced tech on their own.

What I base my own views on has a lot to do with the continual trend in BL and Forgeworld publications of senior Magi and techpriests having an extremely sound understanding of what their doing, whereas their minions can usually pull the right lever, if they're using the right prayer book. Additionally, a common thread in FW publications is that the Mechanicus has a remarkable tendency to "find lost artefacts and their means of production" when the Imperium is in particular dire straights, and thus the AdMech's buffer is in jeopardy. FW never writes "You just didn't notice this thing, we've been using it all along for 10k years" like when GW invents a new unit, usually they're genuinely new, or old and refound with various sideways remarks regarding how the AdMech can usually rediscover just about anything given the right incentive.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369457.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 EmpNortonII wrote:
For six thousand years, they couldn't figure out how to solder some anti-aircraft missiles and attach a primitive radar system to a Rhino. They needed an STC to do that... from the latest Space Marine codex.

They're very good at following instructions, but their actual understanding of technology is barely ahead of the Orks.



except you're wrong.

the AA missile design was the Hunter tank, whose service length has never been mentioned. it's the Hunter tank (with the duo independantly targeting autocanons) that is noted as only being "several thousand years old" we have no clue when the Hunter entered service. it may well offically be a "always been there!" design.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369521.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Bronzefists42 wrote:
This is interpretation on my part but it's tech PRIEST for a reason.

High ranking adepts might be geniuses, but virtually the entire mechanicus are just monks following ritual.

But yeah Graham McNeil basically forgot the whole thematic point of the mechanicus, mindless technology worship and dogma.


It isn't mindless though. The idiocy of tech priests is greatly overstated. They know exponentially more than our best scientists and doctors do today. They are limited by dogma in what they are willing to create.

One tech priest in The Doom of Mymeara managed to take the wreckage of sensor towers and turn them into a host of drone scanners to monitor Betalis.

They know far more than their religion allows them to exploit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369615.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
BrianDavion wrote:
 EmpNortonII wrote:
For six thousand years, they couldn't figure out how to solder some anti-aircraft missiles and attach a primitive radar system to a Rhino. They needed an STC to do that... from the latest Space Marine codex.

They're very good at following instructions, but their actual understanding of technology is barely ahead of the Orks.



except you're wrong.

the AA missile design was the Hunter tank, whose service length has never been mentioned. it's the Hunter tank (with the duo independantly targeting autocanons) that is noted as only being "several thousand years old" we have no clue when the Hunter entered service. it may well offically be a "always been there!" design.



It is. The Hunter was in Epic: Armageddon years before it turned up in 40k - because it's a dedicated AA tank, and as such was needed in Epic (which always had fliers) but wasn't needed in 40k (which didn't have fliers until 6th edition). In the first Codex: Space Marines since fliers became an official part of the game.... Hunter.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369719.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 EmpNortonII wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
They manage to maintain a system that tears open a hole in reality, into which some people walk, which then moves them through a literal Hell, before depositing them in some other location back in the starting dimension thousands of kilometers away.


I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.


On the other end, even the Space Marines have night vision gear inferior to what the US Army has. The US Army... in real life.


They don't. Table top discards night vision for most armies to make it a rule for balance.. Marines have active night vision systems. Storm troopers do. All vehicles have passive systems standard.


Meanwhile. PhillyT will say that the Imperium has technology greater than the Old Ones.


Imperium is behind the Eldar and the Necrons. Eldar tech is likely equal to the Old Ones. I never made any claim about the Old Ones because it has never been stated. You make stuff up all the time, don't attribute falsehoods to others.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369763.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369763.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369802.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 PhillyT wrote:
They have more high end technology than any other Imperial faction.


More of it, probably. But the very best technology the Imperium has is available only to the Grey Knights.

Their codex asserts that the technology of the Grey Knights is a secret not even the Mechanicus of Mars is privy to.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369884.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369900.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369900.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 PhillyT wrote:
Infantry level yes, or at least different, but the Ad Mech has various void grenades, titans, etc. that the Grey Knights aren't deploying.


Well, of course, but the Grey Knights do not really operate on that scale.

They have things like Dreadknights, Aegis suits, psycannons, incinerators, more advanced personal teleporters...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7369941.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Ashiraya wrote:
 PhillyT wrote:
Infantry level yes, or at least different, but the Ad Mech has various void grenades, titans, etc. that the Grey Knights aren't deploying.


Well, of course, but the Grey Knights do not really operate on that scale.

They have things like Dreadknights, Aegis suits, psycannons, incinerators, more advanced personal teleporters...


The Admech has access to DAOT tech.

Singularity Guns >>>> Aegis Armor

Plus the Skitari themselves can get absolutely frightening the higher up you go- even giving Space Marines and Orks a run for their money in terms of dakka.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370580.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 koooaei wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
They manage to maintain a system that tears open a hole in reality, into which some people walk, which then moves them through a literal Hell, before depositing them in some other location back in the starting dimension thousands of kilometers away.
I'd say that's pretty fething advanced.


Shokk attakk gun?


Teleportarium.

The Orks are a race now 60+ million years old, genetically designed to understand and construct technological devices. The only non-advanced races in the setting appear as footnotes in historical records, because they get exterminated by whatever other faction arrives to take that planet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370592.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? is DAOT tech. That's just an era, not anything to do with the level of each individual piece of technology. A DAOT toaster is still just a toaster.

Just a personal semantics thing I take issue with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370603.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus? and can simultaneously toast a bagel and a toaster-strudel, while burning neither.

It will even beep to tell you when it's done.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370610.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Psienesis wrote:
A DAOT toaster, though, will provide you with superior toast, and can simultaneously toast a bagel and a toaster-strudel, while burning neither.

It will even beep to tell you when it's done.


And do that quicker, with less power and not require anointing with oils every time you want somthing toasted. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370637.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
Being the keepers of the technology and knowledge of the DAoT is itself a huge task. They have more of it than the rest of the Imperium, which is already number 3 on the technological depth chart behind Necron and Eldar.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370648.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370658.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
Something like a toaster or something else often predates the DAoT. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370699.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 EmpNortonII wrote:


On the other end, even the Space Marines have night vision gear inferior to what the US Army has. The US Army... in real life.



Oh god are we going to go through this again? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370707.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Desubot wrote:
 EmpNortonII wrote:


On the other end, even the Space Marines have night vision gear inferior to what the US Army has. The US Army... in real life.



Oh god are we going to go through this again?


And here comes the magic of geneseed!
Instant ability to see in low light like day. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370759.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
That alone probably makes them waaaaaaaaaaaay more advanced than anything even remotely fathomable by today's scientists, though of course the higher echelons and specifics of necron (like the energy input of the gauss example given earlier in this thread) and eldar tech, etc, are just as unfathomable to them.

Odds are the highest known science and physics of current present day real world science is grade-school basic knowledge to them. They only look stupid compared to the standards of DAoT technology and more advanced xeno tech. Yes, Ork teleportation technology is practically unreachable to them. It's even more unfathomable to us in real life. Ditto for Eldar tech and the Tau Tech they don't have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370770.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Egregious wrote:
They are a bunch of Lego construction workers, with very few Master Builders (for the other parents out there who have had to sit through that movie 100 times).


Thanks now I have images of thousands of admechs in their temples doing synchronized "everything is Awesome!" dance routines. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370771.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Frazzled wrote:
 Egregious wrote:
They are a bunch of Lego construction workers, with very few Master Builders (for the other parents out there who have had to sit through that movie 100 times).


Thanks now I have images of thousands of admechs in their temples doing synchronized "everything is Awesome!" dance routines.


Could be worse:

Techpriest A: Introductory Statement: Greetings, Brother-Magos 77300-Delta Secundus.
Magos 77300-Delta Secundus: Machine God's leaking air box... what is it now, Tech-Priest L-Five Alpha?
Techpriest A: Interrogative Statement: Would you like to build a-
Magos 77300-Delta Secundus: SHUT UP!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370795.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Titans/MECHANICUM_KNIGHT_COMBINE.html

"The armoured carapaces of the Questoris Knights Magaera and Styrix hold many arcane technologies and weapons systems only understood by the most learned tech-savants of the Mechanicum. "

That link is just an example. I'm pretty flarkin' sure that type of wording "only understood by a few techpriests/the most leraned/blah blah blah" is used many times in the fluff, indicating that higher level tech priests DO at least know what they're doing to some extant, which again, even if it's only a fraction of what they're working with, is still waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond today's modern scientists' understanding.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7370817.page GMT Re:how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Psienesis wrote:


Could be worse:

Techpriest A: Introductory Statement: Greetings, Brother-Magos 77300-Delta Secundus.
Magos 77300-Delta Secundus: Machine God's leaking air box... what is it now, Tech-Priest L-Five Alpha?
Techpriest A: Interrogative Statement: Would you like to build a-
Magos 77300-Delta Secundus: SHUT UP!


Thanks, gave me a good chuckle
The visual images... I need to rewatch that movie, imagine them to be techpriests.
"The tech never bothered me anyway..."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372022.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 jhe90 wrote:
 Psienesis wrote:
A DAOT toaster, though, will provide you with superior toast, and can simultaneously toast a bagel and a toaster-strudel, while burning neither.

It will even beep to tell you when it's done.


And do that quicker, with less power and not require anointing with oils every time you want somthing toasted.


And will pop the toast out at different times, so that one piece isn't getting cold while you butter the other ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372095.page GMT how advanced are the mechanicus?
 Ashiraya wrote:

Their codex asserts that the technology of the Grey Knights is a secret not even the Mechanicus of Mars is privy to.


Isn't it that their technology is only privy to Mars? They don't have enough Techmarines to build all of their equipment, and even if they did, those Techmarines got their training on Mars.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372174.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/623848/7372174.page GMT